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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:25 PM
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Hurricane Earl: reports from E. Coast show oiled beaches
Maybe it's "normal" oil pollution but has anyone noticed the black oil coming in with the big waves in the mid-Atlantic? Just saw a report from Ocean City MD on NBC and the beach had large areas of black sand. And there hasn't been a lava flow recently, either.
:eyes:

Could it be some of the BP oil has "disappeared" to the E. Coast on the currents, after all? :eyes:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:27 PM
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1. Why don't you dig up some photos or video.
And then we can tell you what it is.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:29 PM
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3. i told you where i saw it---nbc news tonight---do a little research yourselves & stop being so nasty
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 04:47 PM by wordpix
jpak, you are known for nastiness

I not only posted the video was on NBC news tonight (local DC station) but it also showed the black Ocean City Beach.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:33 PM
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5. You made the claim, you back it up.
It's not nastiness to demand support from your claims.

Nasty is what you just posted.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:38 PM
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6. Without a link one can do no research
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 05:02 PM by jpak
But you can use yer noggin

To get from the Gulf of Mexico to Maryland....

That massive speculative conspiratorial oil slick would have to be entrained - without detection - in the Loop Current

Then entrained again - without detection - in the Gulf Stream

Then remain intact and un-dispersed in a major hurricane for several days

Then make it ashore in MD

Oh yeah

Neither the Federal Science Report oil budget or the UGA review of the FSR said the oil "disappeared".

But its all a conspiracy ya know....
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:43 PM
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7. I looked it up on the website and video not posted yet AND
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 04:45 PM by wordpix
I didn't say it happened the way you've posted. I'm just speculating because the beaches looked worse than usual.

However the oiled beaches got oiled, whether from BP's spill or not, it should STOP and so should your nasty posts! :puke:
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:45 PM
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8. Old DU Thang - post nonsense, get flamed
yup
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:46 PM
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9. maybe you'd like to see the video before you call it nonsense---I know what I saw and it was black
sand. Not normal on mid-Atlantic beaches.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:47 PM
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10. Then post the video if you have it.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:52 PM
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12. gawd, read, man! I already posted that the video is not up!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:55 PM
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13. Well then why the hell should we believe you?
Especially considering how uncooperative and combative you're being?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:58 PM
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17. Don't talk to these people, they believe in black holes, dark matter,
dark energy and something from nothing.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:59 PM
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18. LOL
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:14 PM
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19. Well they do, ain't no denying it. n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:17 PM
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21. Well, dark matter and dark energy are still hypothetical.
Not like black holes, which have been proven.

But I'm mostly laughing because I don't think the OP would really want your brand of "support."

It's like saying, "don't listen to these guys, they think the earth is older than 6,000 years and that we came from some monkey's butthole."
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:22 PM
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22. Brand X here, get yours while you can. n/t
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:00 PM
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23. Black holes have been proven acceptable to our present understanding
of how things work.



http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=7qqsr17q
>> This image, taken by the Very Large Array of ground based telescopes at radio wavelengths, shows a bright source at the centre of the Milky Way that is thought to surround a black hole. From observations of stars in orbit around the Galactic Center it is concluded that there is indeed a supermassive black hole in this region, approximately 4,000,000 times the mass of the Sun. The structure known as the Galactic Centre Radio Arc (upper left) is described as “hot plasma flowing along lines of magnetic field.”

The thoughtless followers of Einstein have fashioned God in their own image as a mathematician but “He” is much smarter and avoids high school howlers like the gravitational “black hole.” Yes, a theoretical “black hole” exists—and it sucks the very heart out of astronomy and astrophysics. The astronomer Halton Arp articulated the math howler of dividing by zero to give a near infinite concentration of mass in a hypothetical black hole: “Since the force of gravity varies as the square of the inverse distance between objects why not make the ultimate extrapolation and let the distance go to zero? You get a LOT of density. Maybe it goes BOOM! But wait a minute, maybe it goes in the opposite direction and goes MOOB! Whatever. Most astronomers decided anyway that this was the only source that could explain the observed jets and explosions in galaxies.”

Precisely! And when the gravitational force is as close to zero as doesn’t matter, in comparison to the electric force, you must be very careful (as any high school student knows) to not divide by zero, otherwise you introduce infinities. What does it mean for the radius of a physical object to tend to zero?

In the face of discordant data, a scientist is required to check the original works and assumptions that lead to the theory under test. But there are very few such scientists in this modern age. As Sir Fred Hoyle put it, today the pressure is on to “do what aging gurus tell them to do, which is nothing” and simply build on the consensus those gurus have established. A fellow Australian, Stephen Crothers, has shown mathematical theorists to be remarkably unintelligent and sloppy in the application of their talent to physical problems. It seems that most of them don’t really follow the mathematical arguments anyway (which is not surprising) but are happy to extol the results of others, based on reputation, regardless of the principles of physics or commonsense. Crothers has done his historical and mathematical homework and delivered a paper, The Schwarzschild solution and its implications for gravitational waves, at the Conference of the German Physical Society, Munich, March 9-13, 2009. He concludes, inter alia, that:

• “Schwarzschild’s solution” is not Schwarzschild’s solution. Schwarzschild’s actual solution does not predict black holes. The quantity ‘r’ appearing in the so-called “Schwarzschild solution” is not a distance of any kind. This simple fact completely subverts all claims for black holes.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:02 PM
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24. 2 + 2 only equals 4 using certain forms of math.
It doesn't take into consideration alternative forms of math. There's no creativity involved. There's no acceptance of alternative lifestyles. It doesn't speak truth to power.

www.timecube.com
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 07:20 PM
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29. ...
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:19 PM
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27. LMFAO...nt
:rofl:

Sid
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:56 PM
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15. Most normal marine sediments ARE black due to the presence of metal sulfides
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 05:00 PM by jpak
When you have a hurricane churning up the beach, you expose those anoxic sediments.

Black sand doesn't necessarily mean oil.

and it smells.....

















nasty

:evilgrin:

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:08 PM
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25. I give up - what's that a picture of?
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:15 PM
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26. It's a marine sediment core - a very thin oxidized surface (top) and black anoxic sediment below it
n/t
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:25 PM
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28. Huh. I just had a flash back to a freshwater lake we went to when
I was a kid that had a layer of sand on top of this incredible black muck. I suspect it wasn't the same thing at all, that the lake was dug out of black dirt with sand trucked in.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:56 PM
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16. Old DU Thang-ask a question, get flamed
yup
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:32 PM
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4. Mud, silt, pollution... It's what happens after a hurricane.
A friend's house after Katrina. It was worse in person. You sank into this irridescent ooze to your ankles and your feet started burning after about fifteen minutes. I wear baggies over my feet, so that's a second hand detail about the burning. I didn't test it. :)

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:51 PM
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11. Here's a webcam link - can't see any oil
Doesn't look like Earl is having much impact either.

http://www.kiteloft.com/beach_webcam.asp
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:55 PM
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14. Was this the nbc story?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:16 PM
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20. I live here, have my whole life. Crap has washed up onshore for decades now.
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