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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:37 PM
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The New Zealand earthquake.
What is it that causes enormous casualties in some earthquakes and quakes of similar magnitude cause almost none in cities of the same size? Any ideas?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:39 PM
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1. Construction standards. nt
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:44 PM
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3. Yup - Kiwis understand their island's geology and build to withstand quakes
n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:41 PM
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2. Nature of the earthquake, and the nature of the buildings.
Poorly built buildings on sandy or marshy soil near the epicenter of shallow earthquakes are particularly bad combinations.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:47 PM
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4. construction standards, geology of the ground at quake location.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:49 PM
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5. Terrain, infrastructure, population size
and the enforcement of government regulations
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:50 PM
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6. Strict building codes that get enforced by inspectors who can't be bribed.
Take it from a Californian. Photos of our damaged buildings show lots and lots of embedded steel rebar. You seldom see an actual collapsed building any more, and after the Northridge Earthquake took the facings off a bunch of buildings, I think that was added to the codes too. Huge numbers of existing public buildings have been retrofitted over the past 20 years.

Mud-brick villages simply collapse into rubble. Apartment houses in Peru completely pancaked one time -- it was impressive and actually almost terrifying to even look at: each floor simply landed on the one below it, boom-boom-boom, and there was almost no rebar to be seen.

A lot of places in the world have strong building codes, but lax enforcement and corrupt officials who look the other way when inferior concrete is used and other supplies are skimped on or eliminated.

Here in California building codes are so strict that if I even want to build a concrete block garden wall or retaining wall, if it goes over 3 feet high it has to have rebar.

Hekate
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:01 PM
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9. That's most important
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/04/3002489.htm
That said, there is quite a lot of damage in Christchurch



A state of emergency has been declared in Christchurch, New Zealand, after a large 7.0 magnitude earthquake rocked the country's second largest city this morning.

The quake was felt throughout much of the South Island and southern parts of the North Island, and has caused widespread damage, including the collapse of some buildings.

It has also knocked out power and disrupted water and sewerage services.

Many people with injuries have sought treatment but hospitals say no-one has been killed.

Radio New Zealand reports Christchurch Hospital has treated two people seriously injured by falling masonry and glass, a number of people with broken bones, and others with minor injuries such as cuts and bruises.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:09 PM
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14. See the intact high-rise in the background? Yet the foregrounded 2-story has all of its outer walls
... gone. It could be construction -- it could be where the buildings sat vis-a-vis the tremor. I had friends in Northridge whose house was severely shaken (they lost all their glassware, everything was out of the cupboards) but not irreparably damaged. A street or so away in the same tract there were houses that were red-tagged as uninhabitable.

My heart goes out to the Kiwis.

Hekate

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:20 PM
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16. Good coverage here
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:57 PM
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7. I heard a geologist say "earthquakes don't kill people, buildings do". nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:59 PM
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8. Depth has a lot to do with it
The quake in Haiti was a very shallow one. This one in NZ was something on the order of 20 miles down.

The buildings that sustained heavy damage so far all look like older construction, unreinforced brick and mortar walls, absolutely the worst thing in a quake. Unreinforced cement like they had in Haiti is second worst.

California quakes are usually very bad because most are quite shallow. The deeper the quake, the lighter the damage at the same magnitude.

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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:05 PM
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10. Hmm. So it isn't handagod?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:11 PM
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11. New Zealand has more sheep than people
Sparse population and good construction standards probably helps.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:58 PM
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12. I'm most concerned about my former neighbors who moved back to South Island,New Zealand
She sent photos of their new home perched on a cliff overlooking the sea. Hope I hear from her, soon.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:14 PM
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13. Adding to the above about construction standards, it is depth
The closer to the surface, the more destructive.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:09 PM
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15. Building codes and a lack of corruption.
It's that simple
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