I actually think that these polls showing a rethuglican "win" this november HELPS us...

[truebrit71]

Okay, hear me out...I think that the numerous polls (and we all know how reliable they can be) lately that show that the Dems will lose control of the House in November will actually fire up the typical "off-peak election" lethargic Democratic voter and get them to the voting booths this fall.

Whilst I realize that the presstitutes in the M$M are simply doing their masters' bidding with this bullshit, I think that it will unwittingly back-fire on them.

Their polls conveniently show that whilst Dems are unpopular, because you know, it took 8 years to fuck things up but it should take less time to clean things up, so folks are "frustrated", they forget to mention that the rethuglicans are even less popular.

Pushing the meme that Boner will be the next speaker of the House makes a splashy headline, and maybe sets up the battleground for a little election fraud, but in the end I think that the thought of that chain-smoking Oompa Loompa with the gavel in his hand will be sufficient to get the Dem voters to the polls in enough numbers to prevent the realization of those dire headlines..

Let me say make this clear, I am no cheer-leader for this President or this Congress. I am less than enthused with the President's agenda, in fact I think he has been a spectacular failure in many areas, and I am even less happy about the apparent inability of his inner circle to understand what the phrase "mandate for change" meant. However he was given a truly shitty hand, and I think that he may finally be learning the lesson that the gop will never, EVER, cooperate with him evidenced by the fact that he is starting to beat them over their heads with their own obstructionism. Bearing that in mind, and with the horrifying alternative being obvious to anyone with an IQ higher than a petri dish, I think that even as the ass-clowns yip and yap endlessly on the idiot-box about how the GOP has already won the elections, it will be a leaner, meaner Democratic majority being returned to govern us after all the counting has been done this November, and that we may finally, at long last, see some real "change".

[napi21]

1. I've hought about that too. I hope we're both right.

I know every time I see his mugon TV and ear him talking about being Speaker I wish I could vote TODAY! I also HOPE that the overconfidence of the Pubs will strike a spark in many Dems to prove them wrong.

[Upton]

2. Lets hope so..

but if most people are voting with their pocket books, how do you convince them the economy is in good shape, when it's obvious the exact opposite is true?

[Andy823]

3. The right wing BS

Is all about making democrats to depressed to get out and vote since the media says it's a "lost cause"! I read on MSNBC about a "tidal wave" for the republicans, yet the same poll they posted on their site only has republicans ahead by 2 points! I also read about all the independents who are going over to the republicans, according to the polls, yet I also see the morons in the tea party claiming to be "independents"! A lot of people on the right have decided to call themselves "independents" so just because a person in a poll says they are "independents" does not really mean they are!

If this country is really so stupid as to put those who got us into this mess back in office, then there is no hope for us! If republicans can convince the country they are not to blame, so give them another chance, it says a lot about just how stupid voters really are, and honestly I don't think they are as stupid as the republicans think they are! It's all hype by the right wing who "OWNS" the MSM! They know the only chance they have is to try their best to make democrats stay home and not vote by convincing them it's a lost cause. Hell we have right wing trolls on this board very single day pushing that tactic, and sadly we do have democrats here who buy into that BS.

I think the president will keep hitting the right, and putting out the facts. If those running for office use all the crap the republicans have been saying about taking us back to the Bush days, or calling those on unemployment lazy bums, or how helping the states keep teachers, firemen, and police working is just another "bailout" to special interest groups, people will actually wake up and get out an vote, not for the same assholes that got us into this mess, but for the "other" guy who while they may not like that democrats haven't done "MORE", they will realize that they have done "MORE" than the republicans would have done, or will do if they get control of congress!

As you said, we need a meaner, leaner bunch of democrats who will get the job done who will get the hint that the people are pissed, but put them back in to get their act together and start working harder for those who voted them into office. We need a tough bunch of democrats who won't back down, and who will get the job done. The president also has to get tougher and push those in congress harder to get the change the people need and want!

There is still plenty of time, and the main thing needs to be to rally the left and get them out to vote. I think the president can do this, and while we may lose some seats, we can keep a majority in both houses. If not, well look for two more years of "NOTHING" getting done while republicans do their bast to try and impeach the president and stall everything they can so the people who need help won't get it!

[EC]

4. I was thinking this morning that it may make the repubs

feel over confident and some may say "no reason to go vote, we're winning by a large amount anyway".


I think these polls are skewed. There was a poster this week-end who said that as soon as he said he was a democrat that the poll gave him a 404 code...dropped him...and I've read the same sort of stuff about the phone polls - so in my mind the "no responses" and "no opinion" parts of these polls should be added into the Dems column...

[uponit7771]

5. This is the right time to remind people of the 8 years of suffering under Bush

[GSLevel9]

6. you'll have a REALLY hard time GOTV when most can't see any accomplishments. nt