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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 01:23 PM
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" Where They Burn Books, They Will Also Ultimately Burn People."
--Heinrich Heine


Just sayin'... :patriot:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 01:25 PM
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1. "Writers who abuse hyperbole deserve to be taken out and shot."
--slackmaster

:nuke:
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 01:29 PM
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2. And ultimately, they did.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 01:31 PM
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3. and that is exactly what they would like to do. The Salem witch trials redux.
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:03 PM
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4. The Salem witch trials had nothing to do
Edited on Tue Sep-07-10 02:04 PM by burnsei sensei
with reading or with books.
This may also seem trivial, but no witches were burnt at Salem.
They were all hanged.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:10 PM
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6. One was pressed. :-)
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:28 PM
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10. Giles Corey, 94, was pressed to death because
he would not testify.
He would not confess.
In other words, he would not submit to the trials or the mobs outside.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:50 PM
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12. I believe he would not confess to his wife being a witch and
was stoned. which was having stones piled upon you until you were dead.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:09 PM
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14. My error, he refused to participate and was pressed
"...Corey was examined by magistrates on April 18, then left to languish with his wife in prison for five months awaiting trial. When Corey's case finally went before the grand jury in September, nearly a dozen witnesses came forward with damning evidence such as testimony that Corey was seen serving bread and wine at a witches' sacrament. Corey knew he faced conviction and execution, so he chose to refuse to stand for trial. By avoiding conviction, it became more likely that his farm, which Corey recently deeded to his two sons-in-law, would not become property of the state upon his death."

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/salem/SAL_BCOR.HTM
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:31 PM
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15. Those who preserved themselves in this terror
did so by confessing and by spreading accusation.
Corey did neither.
He maintained his individual integrity at the cost of his life.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:10 PM
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5. I do think the identity of the "they" would be important to know. Something to do with "power"?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:16 PM
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7. Protected Speech, even by idiots
is part of what we do here. As much as I hate fred phelps, and wish his entire family would burn in a fiery crash I appreciate the rights he uses to be an asshole.

I think what these people are doing is ignorant but not illegal.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:17 PM
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8. Yep /nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:27 PM
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9. Thank you for your concern
But I hardly think the folks down in Florida are in any position now or for the foreseeable future to begin immolating unwilling persons with the same impunity with which they would burn their own books. You may see it differently.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:38 PM
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11. Which is why we are all free to despise what the people at this church in Flordia are advocating.
When the government wants to burn books, give me a call.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:57 PM
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13. They have been refused a permit. So if they go ahead now
they will be violating the law.
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:35 AM
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16. There's an obvious
difference between the upcoming Quran burning and what Heine was talking about. The government acted in one case; the other involves private citizens and protected speech.

Just sayin'...
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:42 PM
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17. Those that make you believe absurdities will make you commit atrocities. Voltaire nt
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