Is It My Imagination, Or Are There More Than A Number Of...

[WillyT]

posts that... hmmm... seem to deal with the level of... ahem... Democratic Fealty/Loyalty here today???

Trying to be careful so as not to accuse, or flambe'...

I mean we have one thread basically asking for the Admins to get a promised survey out so we can see which "side" people are on, and how another site somewhere organizes Dem Deflation threads to cause trouble here.

There's another about how DailyKos busted a Rand Paul Troll, which is a great thing, yet has devolved into accusations of similar types of trolls here and what should be done about them.

And a third, asking when it became such a bad thing to be a rootin-tootin Dem/Obama supporter. Which is a new one on me.

I know the official election season began today, and I realize we are worried about a major November catastrophe, but if I'm reading these threads correctly, it's a curious way to swell the ranks of Dem leaning voters and advance GOTV efforts!

I mean shit... I just got home from work 30 minutes ago, and this was the very first thing I noticed going on here.

:shrug:

[EFerrari]

1. No kidding. Lobbying for a purge as team building.

Whatever. It's just too dumb to even engage any more.

[walldude]

18. You know it...

I responded to a post today that re-iiterated the rules, to be on this board you "must support progressive ideas and support Democrats". I was wondering how I am supposed to follow both those rules when Democrats don't support progressive ideas.

I actually saw a couple posts today saying we should be more like Republicans who don't ever question their leaders :crazy:

[WillyT]

21. LOL !!!

"I actually saw a couple posts today saying we should be more like Republicans who don't ever question their leaders."

:rofl:

Yeah... that'll work.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

:wtf:

Jeez... I dunno WD... what do we do with people like that?

:shrug:

[EFerrari]

31. I just saw a post that said being a Democrat involves voting for Democrats

not criticizing them all day on a discussion board.

I just hope nobody tells Skinner!

[readmoreoften]

34. +1

[Confusious]

40. There are witches amoung us I tell yea!

They turned me into a newt gingrich!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. I'm seeing a lot of people whistling passed the tombstone.

That's what I'm seeing.

[WillyT]

9. Really ??? - A LOT Of People ??? - Could You Give Us A Ballpark Number ???

Thanks in advance!

:hi:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. A dozen.

Maybe two.

[WillyT]

15. Whew... That's A Relief... For A Minute There, I Thought We Had A Problem !!!

:evilgrin:

And seriously... thanks for the response.

:hi:

[LWolf]

29. I'm seeing sloppy writing. nt

[sabrina 1]

35. That's an odd way to GOTV for democrats

Kick them out of the party?

Why would anyone who cares about Democrats winning in November even suggest such a thing?

Let. me. think.

Mmm

[LaurenG]

3. The bullshit started in earnest yesterday

I have nothing more to say to people who won't stop their gd nagging. It's bizarre and strange and a bit creepy.(besides annoying)

[Fumesucker]

4. Yep, some people would much rather have those they disagree with..

Outside the tent and pissing in..

It takes all kinds, I guess.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

5. Now that the DKOS sock --

has been uncovered, I suspect we will be seeing that trumpeted fairly often. The jig is up for us, eh Willy! :D All that GOPer cash has been filling my coffers for YEARS -- another 3 or 4 and I can retire in luxury to the Caymens. Will I be seeing you there?? :hi:

[WillyT]

6. Yes... My Offshore Account Has $1.38, But I'm Workin On It !!!

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[prolesunited]

7. Why should people be forced to choose sides here?

These purity tests are becoming more and more divisive. One of the things I've always valued here is the ability to see things in many shades of gray and grasp the complexity of how things work.

But, I guess the show of support for Democrats on a site call DEMOCRATIC Underground is some big conspiracy.

I've been here from year one. I liked it a lot better when we were fighting a common enemy -- Bush and the Republicans -- than each other. And don't be so disingenuous to act as if there are no organized disruptions at DU.

[WillyT]

13. Define "... organized disruptions at DU."

Because if you are suggesting that there may be folks here (paid/volunteer) trying to cause trouble, well that's been true of every political site, right or left, from the beginning of the Internet.

If you're telling me that there is a group here that conspires to voice their disappointment/dissatisfaction with Obama and some Dem politicians in some organized stealthy way, I think you may have taken one too many bites of the paranoid pomegranate.

:shrug:

[prolesunited]

14. Not paid

and certainly not stealthy and conspires is probably too strong of a word. But, yes, some of them posting on this very thread.

[WillyT]

16. Ok... Define "Disruption"

Just curious.

:shrug:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. Are you familiar with that unmentionable troll site that bitches about DU?

[WillyT]

19. Are We Talking About... Rightwing Trolls ???

Then yes, there are several.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. Well, they claim to be liberals and progressives.

Despite having gone to Glenn Beck's rally...

[WillyT]

22. Nope... Not Familiar With Such A Site...

But feel free to PM me with a link. I'd love to see what everybody is all worked up about.

:shrug:

[G_j]

38. "troll site"?

I didn't know there were sites just for trolls.
:rofl:


what exactly is a "troll site"?
a place where people have different opinions?

[EFerrari]

32. "Posters who disagree with me like some posters on this thread."

:shrug:

[nashville_brook]

23. seems like we "should be forced" to choose sides b/c some posters here insist on it.

and, they're like totally way more Dem than any other Dems here, so you better do what they say. and if you don't, then who needs you anyway.

remember! we're building a MOVEMENT here!!

[Blue_In_AK]

8. You know what, WillyT?

I'm not even going to click on those threads you mention because I'm not a national rah-rah type of girl. I'm working on what I can work on -- getting the best candidates I can elected in Alaska. With Joe the Teabagger and SP version 2.0 and funny but corrupt Don Young as the Democrats' opposition here, it's easy for me to make a choice. Thankfully, none of our candidates are Blue Dogs, so I don't have to hold my nose.

On the other hand, if I was faced with a Blanche Lincoln, for example, and there was a good Green candidate running, I might be tempted to leave the reservation, so to speak.

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

10. Having been accused

(rightfully) of trolling on FR (haven't been back since my last account cancellation--running out of ISPs!), I just chuckle when I see them here. There's nothing new about trolls on DU, and certainly nothing ominous. It is likely a typical response pattern as we run up to the election. Among teabaggy/conservative trolls, trolling often smacks of desperation or paranoia, where us liberal trolls typically roll around in schadenfreude, or else simply agree with and embellish the most batshit-insane postings on conservative sites. We don't bother with sarcasm, which only works when the target "gets it", and that's too much to expect from a bunch of MORANS with their blinders on.

As you can probably guess, I'm pretty confident that there will be no maelstrom of lost seats come November, and if there is, the nation of MORANS deserve what they get.

[nashville_brook]

24. you don't get it -- it's the *left* that's the problem here!

it's all a genius ploy, you see. people come here *pretending* to be Dems (despite the fact that they've been here for years and fought all the injustices of the Bush admin -- doesn't matter), and you can tell who is a traitor by the way they offer criticisms of the President. no loyal Dem would criticize the President. Or, Dem House or Senate members -- that's how you can tell they're trolls!!!

it's all so clear now.


:sarcasm:

[WillyT]

25. LOL !!!

:evilgrin:

:loveya:

:hi:

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Silly season

and it will get intolerable

Time to work on my walk on eggshells technique... unlike you I am not in with the GOP :evilgrin:

(Yes read the thread... is that 1.98 dollars or million? Inquiring minds and all that)

[pa28]

26. Absolutely not.

We have exactly 57 ninja trolls on this board and I have a list to prove it.

Seriously though, any purge attempt here is going to get a poor reception. We're Democrats and the one thing in our DNA we won't part with is a healthy skepticism for authority as well as a stubborn attachment to critical thinking no matter who happens to be in charge.

[WillyT]

27. BINGO !!!

:applause::applause::applause:

:hi:

[pa28]

33. Oh thanks.

[LWolf]

28. I just got home 30 minutes ago, and my first thought

after glancing at the front page of GD and browsing a few threads was "HOLY SHIT. This is going to be the worst election season I've ever experienced at DU. I think it's even going to make the '08 primaries look mild."

Apparently, some are seeing the writing on the wall, and expect the party to go down in flames in November, and they know it's because Obama has disenfranchised too many. Fear will do that; drive people into displays of fear, anger, and blame. So the bullies are out acting as if they can dictate someone's vote over the internet, or hoping to be nasty enough to drive dissenters off so it will look like the party is more unified than it is.

The fear-mongers are fanning the flames.

And it has absolutely no positive effect on the choices voters make. The only real effect may be that they turn MORE people away, who are just sick of partisan bullying and excuse-making.

The funny thing? While I'm disgusted by many of the campaign "strategies" that are supposed to get me to shut up and get in line, I will be voting for most, maybe all, of the Democrats on my ballot this November. There's only one that was ever a question.

They aren't Obama, and, with one exception, are worthy of my vote. It's a good thing I don't let others' foolishness, poor communication skills, or false, weak, and counter-productive talking points dictate my choices.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

37. Being in CA --

I will be happy to cast my vote for the two big Dems -- Boxer and Brown. But I have not hesitated to made other choices in similar races when the candidate was just not my cup of tea. DiFi hasn't gotten my vote since her first run, and piss off to anyone who would dare scold me for that choice. We have long needed a better option for CA but the old Burton/now Pelosi Machine is just so strong that such a intra-party challenge is just not allowed. :(

[LWolf]

39. I moved away from CA 5 years ago, but

I was there for almost 4 decades before I moved. California's politics is familiar. No scolding from me. :hi:

[depakid]

30. The usual bullies piling on

and behaving true to their natures.

If I were a paranoid type, I'd be inclined to think that they protest too much, as many of them set such a poor example that it wouldn't be difficult to suspect their motives have been something less than sincere, to say the least.

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