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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 07:47 PM
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Robert Scheer- How Reagan Republicans and Clinton Democrats Enriched Wall Street
Robert Scheer on The Great American Stickup: How Reagan Republicans and Clinton Democrats Enriched Wall Street While Mugging Main Street

ROBERT SCHEER: Well, you know, you say a longtime journalist. I worked for the Los Angeles Times as a national reporter, and I covered these hearings in Washington when the Clinton Administration in the '90s basically fulfilled the promise of the Reagan Revolution. Reagan was not able to reverse the sensible regulations of the New Deal of Franklin Delano Roosevelt designed to prevent us from getting into another depression. And those regulations of Glass-Steagall, which Feingold was against—was for keeping and against reversing, said that investment banks playing with supposedly rich people's money should not be allowed to merge with commercial banks that were using the deposits of people that were insured by the taxpayers and that these were different activities. And Reagan could never pull off that kind of deregulation. In fact, because of the savings and loan scandal at the end of his term, he actually had to sign off on increased financial regulation. But when Clinton came in, he brought in one of the big players on Wall Street, Robert Rubin, who has been head of Goldman Sachs, and basically turned to him and said, "You know, what do I need to do to get Wall Street on my side?" And they said, reverse what they considered to be onerous financial regulation. And Clinton delivered on that. He brought in Rubin then to be his Treasury secretary, who was followed by Lawrence Summers, who’s now the top economics adviser in the Obama White House.

And in addition to the Gramm bill that reversed Glass-Steagall, he did something even more significant for our current crisis. He—after Summers had pushed it through, Congress signed off on the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000. He was already a lame duck president. It was in the closing weeks of his administration. And this is the source of our whole problem, really, in terms of the housing meltdown, because we had these suspect derivatives that sensible people in the administration, like Brooksley Born, had warned against. No one knew what these toxic investments all about, the bundling of mortgages, which is what encouraged all of the wild subprime and Alt-A financing, because they were then going to be packaged together, made into securities, and then backed by credit default swaps, and all of this stuff that really didn’t exist. It certainly didn’t exist in Adam Smith’s capitalism, but it didn’t really exist even in Ronald Reagan’s capitalism. This newfangled—these gimmicks that were developed and spiraled wildly out of control were made possible because of that Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which Clinton signed and which said in Titles III and IV, no existing government regulation, no existing government regulatory body, will be allowed to supervise these credit default swaps, these collateralized debt obligations that were there.

...

AMY GOODMAN: Robert Scheer, your last chapter, "Sucking Up to the Bankers: Crisis Handoff from Bush to Obama"—has Obama done anything different about the economy than Bush, do you feel? 

ROBERT SCHEER: No. Obama has been a disaster. And I say this as someone who was suckered into contributing to his campaign financially. You know, my wife maxed out in her contributions, pushing those buttons every time. I still get emails from the Obama campaign telling "We’re winning here, we’re winning there." But it’s been a disaster. Now, maybe, you know, if he could appoint Elizabeth Warren, you know, to the consumer agency, there will be a little bit of value in this deregulation—in this new regulation. But—

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http://www.democracynow.org/2010/9/7/robert_scheer_on__the_great
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 07:53 PM
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1. "No. Obama has been a disaster. "
ROBERT SCHEER: No. Obama has been a disaster. And I say this as someone who was suckered into contributing to his campaign financially. You know, my wife maxed out in her contributions, pushing those buttons every time. I still get emails from the Obama campaign telling "We’re winning here, we’re winning there." But it’s been a disaster. Now, maybe, you know, if he could appoint Elizabeth Warren, you know, to the consumer agency, there will be a little bit of value in this deregulation—in this new regulation. But—


But he could appoint Elizabeth Warren to the agency his new regulatory reforms created. That would make him no longer a disaster?


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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 07:54 PM
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2. He could, but he hasn't.
We're still waiting. Wasn't that supposed to happen a week or so ago?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 07:58 PM
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3. Unrecced for being a pure anti-Democratic screed posted
without any comment by the OP. The article equates Obama with Bush. The OP doesn't comment in any way, and previous posts lead me to believe that he agrees with that equation.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:34 PM
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7. You mean anti-corporatist
It was the real Democrats that got the shaft from all those deals!
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JoseGaspar Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:23 PM
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11. Have you ever read...
...Lord of the Flies?

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 11:28 PM
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13. Robert Scheer is a Democrat and this isn't an article, it's an interview
about his new book. Why don't you try reading it or watching the video.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:22 PM
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4. why did I just read this crap? Unrec.
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:35 AM
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28. To learn
I didn't realize this was controversial. I thought this was all common knowledge.

Are you resistant to knowledge?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:31 PM
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5. K&R
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:31 PM
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6. K&R Reaga-Cons and Hedge Fund Democrats should take a hike
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:40 PM
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8. k & r
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:46 PM
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9. Wall Street has done ZERO for America, apart from lining the pockets of the 'Have-Mores.'
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 11:31 PM
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14. I had no clue about the Commodity Futures Modernization Act.
Edited on Tue Sep-07-10 11:32 PM by EFerrari
That was the writing on the wall for housing, right there.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:47 AM
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30. That bill also made the California energy "crisis" possible.
Clinton should have vetoed the bill. The bill was a gift from Phil Gramm to his wife Wendy who received a job on Enron's board of directors after this piece of legislation passed. Recall Enron's gaming of electricity prices in California for profit. The bill also made possible the speculation on oil prices, resulting in higher gas prices and obscene profits for the oil industry.

http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/pressroomredirect.cfm?ID=983
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:45 AM
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31. Phil Gramm (R-TX)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 10:40 AM
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35. From "Foreclosure Phil":
"But Gramm's most cunning coup on behalf of his friends in the financial services industry—friends who gave him millions over his 24-year congressional career—came on December 15, 2000. It was an especially tense time in Washington. Only two days earlier, the Supreme Court had issued its decision on Bush v. Gore. President Bill Clinton and the Republican-controlled Congress were locked in a budget showdown. It was the perfect moment for a wily senator to game the system. As Congress and the White House were hurriedly hammering out a $384-billion omnibus spending bill, Gramm slipped in a 262-page measure called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. Written with the help of financial industry lobbyists and cosponsored by Senator Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), the chairman of the agriculture committee, the measure had been considered dead—even by Gramm. Few lawmakers had either the opportunity or inclination to read the version of the bill Gramm inserted. "Nobody in either chamber had any knowledge of what was going on or what was in it," says a congressional aide familiar with the bill's history.

It's not exactly like Gramm hid his handiwork—far from it. The balding and bespectacled Texan strode onto the Senate floor to hail the act's inclusion into the must-pass budget package. But only an expert, or a lobbyist, could have followed what Gramm was saying. The act, he declared, would ensure that neither the sec nor the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (cftc) got into the business of regulating newfangled financial products called swaps—and would thus "protect financial institutions from overregulation" and "position our financial services industries to be world leaders into the new century."

snip

But the Enron loophole was small potatoes compared to the devastation that unregulated swaps would unleash. Credit default swaps are essentially insurance policies covering the losses on securities in the event of a default. Financial institutions buy them to protect themselves if an investment they hold goes south. It's like bookies trading bets, with banks and hedge funds gambling on whether an investment (say, a pile of subprime mortgages bundled into a security) will succeed or fail. Because of the swap-related provisions of Gramm's bill—which were supported by Fed chairman Alan Greenspan and Treasury secretary Larry Summers—a $62 trillion market (nearly four times the size of the entire US stock market) remained utterly unregulated, meaning no one made sure the banks and hedge funds had the assets to cover the losses they guaranteed.

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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:58 PM
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10. unrec...Obama has not been a disaster. n.t
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 11:25 PM
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12. Well Mr Panaconda, what is *your* opinion on this? You quote an anti-Dem/Obama=Bush piece...
... without comment? Are we to understand that you agree that Obama=Bush? Please let us know in plain language.

At least I can give you props for citing your source this time.

Hekate
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 11:47 PM
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15. This isn't an anti-Dem/ Obama=Bush piece.
Scheer has plenty of good things to say about people who fight Wall Street, like Brooksley Born and Elizabeth Warren and Senator Feingold.

And it's not about about Obama. If it's "about" any one, it's about Clinton and how his policies helped us get to where we are today.

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 11:50 PM
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16. Darn. How could I have ever gotten that from this part? ...
AMY GOODMAN: ... has Obama done anything different about the economy than Bush, do you feel? 
ROBERT SCHEER: No. Obama has been a disaster. And I say this as someone who was suckered into contributing to his campaign financially.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 11:53 PM
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17. You take an interview between Amy Goodman and Robert Scheer
and focus on that? On Scheer's disappointment? And ignore the whole rest of the interview?

Sometimes you find exactly what you look for.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:11 AM
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18. Are you ever honest?
Hekate asked the OP a question and noted that this piece was anti-Obama. YOU made the point that it "wasn't about Obama."

When Hekate refers to the damn FIRST point made by the author (that Obama has been a "disaster"), suddenly you want to criticize Hekate for "only focusing on that." What is all of this about? Why can't you let people just ask what they want to ask and have the dialogue that they wish to have with one another?

And then you'll be the first one hollering about "message control." I don't understand what's happened to far too many people around here.
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JoseGaspar Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:18 AM
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19. You made that up.

Nothing in the interview says that. What the interview says is that Obama has been a "disaster". It also implies that Obama = Clinton, and by further implication that Clinton was a "disaster".

Do you disagree with that?

What do you base your disagreement on?

Do you know anything about the subject?

Are you a better Democrat than "Scheer"?

Are you a better "Leftist" than Scheer?

Do you know who Scheer is? (Quick, on to Wikipedia)


Or do you see your role as policing certain "thoughts", without any need to know the "details"?


Please, let "us" know in plain language.

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:44 AM
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20. Jose, Jose. My goodness. Where has Panaconda, the OP, gone? I addressed the question to him
Go back and read the OP. I made nothing up. The comparison was to Bush.

"AMY GOODMAN: ... has Obama done anything different about the economy than Bush, do you feel? 
ROBERT SCHEER: No. "

Hekate

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 01:18 AM
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21. So, in your opinion, Obama should not be compared to his predecessor?
Every president is compared to his predecessor.

I don't know why you're so focused on the original poster. I almost posted this myself this morning after I watched Democracy Now!

But I didn't because I knew how this thread would go. Cheap shots from low or no information responders who apparently don't know who Amy or Robert are and whose only interest is in affirming their own world view.

Forget that most of us have never heard of Brooksley Born or about how hard she fought for working people or how Elizabeth Warren is fighting the same fight and getting the same static from the same people. Forget all of that. What matters is that Amy Goodman asked Scheer to compare two presidents, something that MUST NEVER BE DONE although it is as common as corn and as old as the office.

Obviously, as a party, we're much too fragile to withstand our own conversations. That bodes ill for actually fighting through an election.

Good grief. It must be time for my Soma.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 01:37 AM
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22. Walk away, Hekate
Edited on Wed Sep-08-10 01:40 AM by Number23
When the perpetually petulant are gunning for a fight, the best thing to do is just walk away.

Edit: I admit to being a bit protective of you right now.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 04:24 AM
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27. Oh I know how to walk on by...
(For some reason I am hearing Dionne Warwick singing the chorus to that song,)

And it's cool, but thanks sister. :hug:

Hekate
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JoseGaspar Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 10:32 AM
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34. Hekate, Hekate, you made it up... and continue to make it up.

Except that you have now reduced your objection to a single word: "No".

True or not true? Is Scheer wrong? What case does he make?

Or is that all secondary to the standards of your own personal Office of Democratic Correctness?

Panaconda is only the messenger at the moment. It is Scheer who is making a (most informed) case. In truth, Amy Goodman baited him. Is she under the bus?


What is Scheer allowed to say which allows him to be heard?

Do you have a book? Is there a thousand page manual of "guidelines"? Is there one manual or are there many - one for each arbiter of the truth?

Is the truth not the current standard? Is there a moratorium on the truth during the elections? How long does it last?

Is the truth allowed only if it doesn't violate the negativity standard?

Is there a manual for that?
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:41 AM
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29. Of course not
That is a silly comparison, they are two very different people.

I never like to compare personalities when talking politics, I would rather focus on issues and systems. That keeps the discussion in a more intellectually honest sphere. Focusing on personalities is a distraction and deadens political conscious.

Issues such as war, defense spending, social services, financial regulation, these are what matter don't you think?

I don't have any heroes.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 01:38 AM
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23. This is the 23rd post
:)
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JoseGaspar Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:43 AM
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38. Troll hunting, are we?

If you read that article, that Rand Paul staffer was an "intern". An intern. Now, how hard is it to spot right-wing college kids talking "left"?

But I have this theory. That is just the tip of the iceberg. The conspiracy goes much deeper. Alongside trolls, there are also secret "morans", secret "sheeple", and secret "know-nothings" hiding out here. Some have voted correctly for years... the tricksters.

What do you say we smoke them all out... run the table so to speak? I smell them everywhere.

"Gunning for a fight"... on this particular inquisition?

You betcha!

OOOPS...

Did I just "out" myself?


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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 01:45 AM
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24. Unrec'ds because "GOP equals Dems" is a GOP Big Lie of 2010 elections
designed to foster apathy and encourage Dems to stay home.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 01:48 AM
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25. LOL. Robert Scheer was FIRED from his gig at the LA Times because he wasn't a Republican.
Geeze Louise. E tu, McCamy Taylor.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:00 AM
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26. FAIR: LA Times Dumps Liberal Columnist (11/17/05)
Action Alert

LA Times Dumps Liberal Columnist
Scheer out as Bush attacks Iraq War critics

11/17/05

Los Angeles Times columnist Robert Scheer was fired on November 11 after nearly 30 years at the paper, the last 13 as one of its most progressive political columnists.

In a published statement announcing op-ed page changes (11/10/05), the Times insisted that it is dedicated to "provid readers with a wide range of voices and perspectives," but in dumping Scheer, the paper has gotten rid of one of the few prominent progressive columnists in the country.

Scheer's forceful and independent commentary has often placed him in the middle of national debates. He has been one of the strongest critics of the White House over the Iraq War. For instance, in a pre-war column (8/6/02) that undercuts the current notion that everyone got the WMD story wrong, Scheer wrote that “a consensus of experts” told the Senate that Iraq’s chemical and biological arsenals were “almost totally destroyed during eight years of inspections.” Shortly after George W. Bush’s “Mission Accomplished” speech, and well ahead of the pack, Scheer (6/3/03) called White House pretexts for war a “big lie.”

Scheer was also one of the first columnists to call for withdrawal from Iraq, in a November 4, 2003 column that presaged shifting public opinion on the issue--though his position is still hard to find among his fellow pundits. More than 1,700 U.S. soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis have died since Scheer’s call for withdrawal was published.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2722

That I even have to post this here is depressing as hell.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:27 AM
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32. That is nonsensical

How does equating oneself with the opposition give advantage in an election?

The demonization of anyone to the left of Democratic Leadership is reaching the point of absurdity.

Are you paranoid or is it a guilty conscience?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 09:27 AM
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33. At least you provided proper attribution this time...
unrec anyway.

Sid
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 10:58 AM
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36. K & R for the economic history lesson which some Americans still refuse to learn.
Refusing to study history doesn't diminish the reality of the changes made to our regulatory system that directly enabled our current economic crisis.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:02 AM
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37. Recommend
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