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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 01:58 PM
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Unbelievable - I just got a job solicitation that requires "screening for Christian commitment"
The recruiter found my resume on Dice. I sent her a link to my States law prohibiting discrimination based on religion.

This is from the companies website: How can this be legal???

http://www.worldvision.org/content.nsf/about/hr-requirements?Open&lpos=bot_txt_Qualifications


Qualifications


World Vision United States has diverse opportunities for qualified and committed Christian professionals who are willing to share the life, light, and hope of Christ.

Christian Commitment
All applicants for staff positions with World Vision United States will be screened for Christian commitment. The screening process will include:
Discussion with the applicant of his/her spiritual journey and relationship with Jesus Christ;
Understanding of Christian principles;
Understanding and acceptance of World Vision's Statement of Faith and/or The Apostles Creed.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:01 PM
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1. It's a religious organization. I think, and I could be completly wrong, but that it is legal.
I wouldn't work for them, but it is my choice to look for employment elsewhere.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:09 PM
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9. Just like Salvation Army, I guess
If the employer is involved in 'Christian' outreach why would anybody who objects to that want to work for them, anyway?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:12 PM
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12. Salvation Army still homophobic?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:31 PM
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18. Yes, they are.
San Francisco stopped social service contracts with them over the issue. T
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:33 PM
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19. Too bad -- but good for San Francisco! Thanks --
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:16 PM
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14. No, I wouldn't want to work for them, obviously.
But I was shocked when I went to their website and saw that page. The recruiter that sent me the (unsolicited) job inquiry didn't mention any of that. Although I was a bit suspicious of her rather unprofessional sign of of "God bless".
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:11 PM
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11. I thought about that, too, from that angle
But, if they are a vested corporation, it is illegal.

In looking them up, they claim to be a wholly non-profit organization.
http://www.worldvision.org/content.nsf/about/who-we-are

and, 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has granted them the rightt o continue hiring based on religious commitment.
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20100824/world-vision-can-continue-faith-based-hiring-court-rules/index.html

So, I retract my earlier post re: exposing them as using illegal hiring pratices.

You are correct, Kerrytravelers, and I stand corrected :hi:

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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:06 PM
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24. Oh, I wasn't trying to publicly correct you, or anything.
I honestly wasn't sure. As far as I know, I may have been totally wrong.

Good research on the issue. I didn't know that as a fact, either!

:hi:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:03 PM
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2. self-delete
Edited on Wed Sep-08-10 02:12 PM by Whoa_Nelly
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:03 PM
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3. What do they want you to do?
I'm not sure this is all that uncommon if you are doing some kind of outreach work for a religious organization. Certainly work checking into though.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:05 PM
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4. Web development. It was an unsolicited contact and it shocked me.
I guess it makes sense that a non-profit religious org can want employees of their own religion.

But they shouldn't have recruiters sending out blanket job inquiries. They should post the openings at their church or something.

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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:17 PM
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15. Exactly.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 03:30 PM
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22. I guess they aren't
finding anyone with the combination of IT skills and Christian zealotry posting on the church bulletin board. It would make more sense if they put out some kind of help wanted ad that listed all of their requirements and let people contact them.

Of course if you are interested and need a job you could still respond with your qualifications and tell them upfront that you don't meet their religious qualifications. They may be willing to go with someone who is good at web development without the religious background if they are having a hard time that perfect combination.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:07 PM
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5. It's not necessarily illegal.
If the job is related to the organization's religious mission, it's legal. If you apply for a job with, for example, a Catholic church, and the job is being a janitor, they can't discriminate. But if they're hiring a priest, they can definitely insist that you be Catholic.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:09 PM
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8. Web and UI developers?
Required Skills Sets: HTML, PHP development, eCommerce. Mobile development
Desired Skill Sets: Agile Methods
Required prior experience: non-profit

That's hardly a priestly role, lol.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:24 PM
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23. In that case, you have a better argument.
But if you got the job you'd have to develop all those Jesus-y web sites anyhow.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:07 PM
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6. Looks like it's some sort of missionary or evangelical organization
Under the circumstances that request does not seem too far out of line.

The name of the organization itself should have been your first clue. I mean if they're hiring somebody to spread "the word" they might want to be sure that whoever they hire actually believes "the word". It ain't like they're looking for construction workers or software engineers or something.

Personally I think it's bullshit but it seems reasonable to me that a religious organization might want to hire people that actually believe in whatever that religion teaches.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:11 PM
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10. Au contraire. The position is for a UI developer
with ecommerce and mobile development experience.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:43 PM
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20. A UI developer in a missionary organization. (nt)
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:45 PM
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21. I was responding to Tularatom's statement:
"It ain't like they're looking for construction workers or software engineers or something"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:08 PM
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7. Religious org, and Non Profit
they get exceptions.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:14 PM
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13. Legal, but creepy just the same.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:20 PM
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16. Legal but shouldn't be. You aren't being recruited for a religious position
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 02:21 PM
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17. It's one of those evangelical deals they want you to be docile.
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