the church that is burning the book has less than 100 menbers

[spanone]

so why is this international news?

what about the 305,000,000 or so americans that are not burning korans

[Brickbat]

1. You know, I didn't know this until today. I was under the impression it was some kind of megachurch.

Why anyone is paying attention to it is beyond me.

[spanone]

3. all the networks have people stationed there, it's absurd

[Bozita]

2. One of the reports yesterday showed a crowd of about 30 at a recent service

[Hannah Bell]

4. good question. would be interesting to know how long said church has been in existence, too.

[Bozita]

5. link to videos at Nightline. This was their headline piece last night.

This assclown supposedly ran a church in Germany for a dozen years.


http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/

[Hannah Bell]

18. in germany? my, my. smells like psyops.

[Blue_Tires]

27. another fun link about their history:

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,5985291,00.html

[Hannah Bell]

29. that *is* interesting. he was there rather a long time -- german-speaking if he could

pastor a german church -- in germany for "decades" -- came back to us circa 2008, so his leadership at this little church of short-term -- & now he's getting national press.

veddy interesting.

"asked him to leave -- placing too much emphasis on himself -- no controversies"

[spanone]

7. wonder who's funding these nuts...website pretty sophisticated

http://www.doveworld.org/

[Hannah Bell]

20. is that for just this one florida church? i said it smells like psyops, even more now.

book, website, lots of media coverage -- & a church with only 100 people?

uh-huh.

their blog starts in 2009.

sounds like the church was started in 1986 by another guy & assumed its present shape under terry jones sometime after 1996.

terry jones would be the agent.

[spanone]

22. it looks that way, pretty weird.

[TheMightyFavog]

33. According to Der Spiegel the precher's congragation on Cologne kicked him out in 2009.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,716409,00.html

They kicked him out for being too radical.

[jobycom]

6. I'd love to see a few thousand Americans show up to protest the burners.

Fill the church and grounds with protestors, make it hard for the thugs to burn anything.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. About 150,000,000 americans are sympathetic with that church.

Given various voter registration habits, polls on the "ground zero mosque," and so on.

Even if they won't come out and say it.

[tularetom]

9. But 400 snakes?

[Dappleganger]

10. The word is out there are probably 50 or so people there.

More on Pastor Nobody: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,5985291,00.html

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. The only reason that this is thing is news is that there is a desperate need for content.

The potential for conflict & discussion is unbounded on this story. The NY thing is played out & boring after it had it's week long run.

[spanone]

14. you are more than likely correct

[Deep13]

12. It's a big ole who-gives-a-shit.

For the record, I won't be burning the Quran, any other holy book or any other book this weekend or any other day. I will, however, be using newspaper to protect my table from messy projects.

[JerseygirlCT]

13. Like Phelps', I imagine

They also get far too much publicity - which they love.

In reality, his congregation is basically his family.

Ugly gets attention. Might be better if it didn't in cases like these.

[spanone]

19. attention from the pentagon, the vatican, hillary clinton....amazing

that's some serious ugly

[Frustratedlady]

15. Maybe he is insisting on this idiotic move so he can recruit new members.

There are plenty out there that would fill the bill.

What I want to know is if his tax exempt status will be pulled.

[Imajika]

16. The whole thing is utterly stupid...

How does this even get news coverage.

It's like 50 people in this whole congregation. I could get 50 friends together, declare I'm going to burn this book, and get all this media coverage?

Completely idiotic.

Further, who cares anyway. Why are we catering to the reaction of a bunch of Islamic fundamentalists? If I want to burn bibles I can and no one much is going to care what a bunch of Christian extremists think. It won't even make news.

The whole thing is dumb. Burning a Quran is stupid, but this reaction of ours in going into overdrive to protect this book is also ridiculous - and counterproductive. Hell, now everyone knows they can get a reaction from Theater Commanders, the Secretary of State, celebrities everywhere, etc, just by declaring an intention to burn the Quran.

What if I declare my intention to just mishandle the Quran instead? Will that warrant mobs to threaten violence in the Muslim world? Will Patraeus leap on TV and council against my mishandling this book?

[madmax]

17. I heard about 50 members on CNN

which begs the question: That's a pretty nice building there behind the trailer with the lovely 'burn the Koran' sign :sarcasm: So few members can build and support such a building. If so, they should be working for Habitat for Humanity. No one would be homeless.

I hope the IRS crawls up their ass with a microscope and investigates the hell out of this group. Repeal all tax exempt status for religious organizations. This tax exempt status is bullshit. I can get a mail order Divinity degree and be tax exempt, too. And maybe I'll do just that.

:mad: :banghead:

[Canuckistanian]

21. Your post reminds me of the wisdom of Milhouse on The Simpsons

"What about all the times I didn't wear a tutu? Nobody ever brings those up."

[Evasporque]

23. The act will be broadcast and will aid in proving intent and harm...

Thus the Church Pastor will be punished accordingly.

I think.

[blondeatlast]

24. That should put the M$M to parishioner ratio at about 50:1, then, yes? nt

[spanone]

25. Angelina Jolie Speaks Out Against Quran Burning

along with the pope...

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/09/08/angelina-jolie-speaks-out-against-quran-burning/

[seafan]

26. Actually, it's less than 50 members at this *church*, and an armed Christian group will be on hand

...to *protect the church* on September 11. It is an armed Christian organization, known as 'Right Wing Extreme'.


Sounds like all the ingredients for inciting violence and it's something we're not taking lightly.


Details on all of above at this link.



Now is a good time to review this report from the Department of Homeland Security last year:


Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment, April 7, 2009

[spanone]

28. looney fuckers protecting looney fuckers

[madmax]

32. I wish some Iraq/Afganistan Vets show up and tell

these assholes STFU and quit fanning the flames of hatred and causing more possible harm to our guys that are over there.

[TheMightyFavog]

34. Didn't the Militia group decide to pull out of this event?

I thought I read that somewhere.

[spanone]

30. just found this....

Updated |1:11 p.m. If nothing else, Terry Jones, the pastor of a tiny Florida church with just three or four dozen members, whose every stray thought on the subject of Koran burning is now reported each day by thousands of news organizations worldwide, has proved himself to be a master of public relations.

On Wednesday, Mr. Jones — currently the subject of 4,102 news stories linked to by Google News — told the world that he would press ahead with the publicity stunt he announced in July on “The Braveheart Show,” a series of his YouTube rants with viewing figures in the hundreds and inflammatory or poorly spelled titles like “Obama Is President Because He Is Black,” “Haiti Must Repent,” “Is Islam the Anti-Christ?” and “Why Are We Loosing?”

As the 236 viewers of the Sept. 12, 2009, episode of the show may recall, Mr. Jones staged an anti-Islam protest on the last anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks but the few reporters at that event, also attended by about 30 members of his church, were from local newspapers like The Gainesville Sun and The Independent Florida Alligator.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/

[Bonhomme Richard]

31. The guy is a loser and looks like Yosemite Sam to boot.

Ignorant leader (I refuse to call him a pastor), ignorant congregation, and I would bet the house that they are all losers of one sort or another.I can hear him now. "I..... hates rabbits" and I guess Muslims too.

[Tx4obama]

35. There will be 90,000 people there at the football game, they should go protest the church n/t

[truedelphi]

36. But this meme of "Muslims all very very bad"

Is pervasive. Ministers all over California are cashing in on it.

100 members here, and there, and there and here, and it starts to add up.

A shame (And a sham) that Christ's teaching are now twisted to mean Hate and Fear.