The next divide is organic vs non organic foods.

[dkf]

Safe eating will be available for the well off while the rest will have to be concerned about their food. An analyst on CNBC just said organic/natural food is becoming a necessity for the wealthy.

[SpiralHawk]

1. There is a quiet revolution taking place

in the cities and suburbs of North America. Lots and lots of people are growing clean food, free of chemical and mutant GMO crapola and the toxic, brain-distorting high-fructose corn-porn syrup and other slow soul-and-health-sucking shit like that.

This organic movement will continue to grow for it is bringing health and true wealth to the people, and reconnecting them with the fundamental goodness of the land.

Eventually, in the long run, petro-chemical industrial mutant food already costs more, if not at the supermarket checkout counter, then at the health clinics and hospitals, and in the despoiled environments fetid with skank water and worse.

You don't have to be rich to eat clean food. Just smart and industrious.

[Blue Meany]

7. Yes, and I'm part of this movement, growing a lot of my own food

and buying the rest from local organic farmers. But it seems like this movement has been picked up on the radar of the powers that be. Now, they're starting raid farmer's markets under various pretexts and running high-profile (sympathetic) editorials against the local food movement. I guess the food industry sees the potential, though personally I think it will require an enormous shift in land use and food distribution before the revolution is over.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

8. "the toxic, brain-distorting high-fructose corn-porn syrup "

I'm a firm believer in staying away from that (HFCS) as much as possible.


That's an easy step for people to take.

[valerief]

12. I buy as much organic as I can and avoid as much processed food as I can.

I don't bake my own bread, so I do buy organic oat nut bread, a processed food. I have to do a lot more cooking, but damn it, I'm worth it!!!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Organic food isn't a necessity for anybody.

It's conspicuous consumption.

[dkf]

5. We already see how the mass produced food is handled badly.

I'm beginning to think there is something to this.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. We've also seen how organic food is handled badly.

Remember the organic spinach that killed people? Or the unpasteurized apple juice?

[ThomasQED]

23. So you're arguing for more pesticides?

What could possibly go wrong?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

24. I'm saying organic food is a stupid, pointless scam for dumb people.

When you feed 300 million people you're bound to get isolated cases of contamination regardless of organic vs. inorganic.

[ThomasQED]

25. But it's not all about the contamination

It's about pesticides, carcinogens and poisons in your food and in the earth.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

27. No, it's about needless paranoia about pesticides.

As for contamination, that's what the person I was responding to wanted to discuss.

[MadHound]

26. How is it conspicous consumption?

If you are smart, you don't get your organic from the grocery store. The stuff labeled organic in a store can be anything but. However if you get to know the folks at the farmers market, or get to know farmers period, you can get truly organic food that runs the same price as non-organic if not less. I'm getting organic, grass fed beef for $2.30/lb., doesn't matter if it is hamburger or steak. Hardy conspicuous consumption now.

[RKP5637]

3. And more stuff to fear/hate too. I gotta get more paper for my list of what to

fear/hate each day.

[SpiralHawk]

4. Fear and hate are republicon dietary staples

Clean, fresh, organic, healthy, good, natural, vibrant are increasingly the dietary staples of smart Democrats.

[RKP5637]

9. I liked your post #1! Very encouraging! n/t

[pipi_k]

13. Oh god, tell me about it...

all the companies we're supposed to boycott.

All the products we're supposed to boycott because they're made in other countries

All the places we're not supposed to go to because they show Fox News on their TVs

Don't eat this food, don't eat that food...

And that's just here.

Then we have "scientific studies" telling us we can't eat eggs...oops...we can this week...no alcohol...oops...alcohol is OK but don't overdo it, except for the studies that say heavy drinkers live longer than non-drinkers. Coffee...ok...nope, never mind...not OK....oops...forget that...it's OK again.

Fuck it.

I'm gonna make my own (good or bad) choices.

[RKP5637]

20. That's what I'm starting to say too about many things. Fu** it. "I'll make

my own (good or bad) choices." Anything you see/hear/read changes in a few days anyway. Then there's the list of all sorts of people we're supposed to be afraid of too. The pounding of this crap never stops 7x24. So that's pretty much what I've said too. Fu** it.

[TBF]

10. You mean the next divide to keep workers busy fighting

so they don't notice who is really ripping them off? Nice try.

[Radical Activist]

11. Time to start community gardens.

Focus in low income neighborhoods and make them organic. This doesn't have to be an issue that divides along class lines.

[dkf]

18. So true!

That is a revolutionary concept.

[nosmokes]

14. Only because the consumer doesn't pay the true cost of industrialized food

unlike those that purchase organic food from local family owned and appropriately sized farms that treat their workers and animals ethically and don't poison the air we breathe, the water we drink or the land we roam.

[dkf]

15. Yup.

Buy local.

[GoneOffShore]

16. And there you have it.

I'm sitting here now waiting for the other members of our CSA to pick up their shares.

I'm not paying for my 1/2 share because I'm hosting the pickup.

[GoneOffShore]

17. Dupe - deleted

[watrwefitinfor]

19. THEY KNOW the food is poisoned, and

they are not eating the shit we have to eat. Even the Bushes.

When I heard the Bush daughter being interviewed a few years ago her wedding plans, and she began rattling off what she was serving her guests, listing all this organic food they were serving - organic this, naturally fed that, even to flying in special organic steaks - I began to realize exactly the same thing you are saying.

Wat

[SpiralHawk]

21. Research Finds Organic Farms Produce Better Fruit and Healthier Soil

News & Resources

Research Finds Organic Farms Produce Better Fruit and Healthier Soil

Side-by-side comparisons of organic and conventional strawberry farms and their fruit, conducted by Washington State University researchers, found the organic farms produced more flavorful and nutritious berries while leaving the soil healthier and more genetically diverse. The research was published in the peer-reviewed online journal, PLoS ONE. The study is among the most comprehensive of its kind, analyzing 31 chemical and biological soil properties, soil DNA, and the taste, nutrition and quality of three strawberry varieties on 13 conventional and 13 organic commercial fields in California.

http://www.wsunews.wsu.edu/pages/publications.asp?Action=Detail&PublicationID=21276&TypeID=1

[dkf]

22. Nice...

I was just reading about the local raised beef and how it is higher in omega and other good things. I accidentally got the chicken pesto (hey I ordered the club!) and it rocks but I must try the Kamuela Burger next go around.

[Luminous Animal]

28. It is a necessity for me and I am decidedly not rich. And I am remarkably frugal...

The rich will pay for organic food out of season. The frugal will wait for that glut of local organic fruits and vegetables when they are cheap, buy oodles of them and then jar them.