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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:05 PM
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I'm reading the Qu'ran this weekend.
It moved up to the top of my list at the drama over Park 51.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:06 PM
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1. Let us know if you switch from sewing flags to making suicide bomb vests
;-)
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:17 PM
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8. Red, White and Blue suicide bomb vests....
If you're going to be martyred, you can at least look snazzy!
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:24 PM
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12. +1
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:10 PM
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2. it was... ok
rather tedious, I thought, but large parts of it are very poetic.

Better than the Bible, by far... that's like driving across Nebraska while Ben Stein reads you a calculus text book.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:14 PM
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6. I cannot see the literary superiority of the Q'uran over the poetry of the KJB.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:19 PM
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9. the poetry of psalms
is more than counterbalanced by endless pages of sacrificial rules, and lineages, and endless monologues from various prophets. KJV English gets incredibly tedious after hours of reading. At least I can read the Q'uran without falling asleep.
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wookie72 Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:59 PM
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21. I like the Proverbs
and, of course, Micah, the source of my sig. Of the Gospels, I prefer Luke.

I do appreciate the chutzpah of one Psalm being a giant acrostic.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:34 PM
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14. The problem is that the KJV was also a piece of English literature

When your editorial board includes William Shakespeare, then you get a good product. It's remarkable how well the KJV holds up as literature.

Another problem with the Quran is that doctrinally it is only authoritative in Arabic, and translations are considered a form of interpretation (in the literary sense) or commentary. Because the notion of treating it "as literature" is heresy, you don't end up with any good compromise translations that work well "as literature".
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wookie72 Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:57 PM
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19. Sufi Poetry is pretty sweet
And the Rubaiyay of Omar Khayyam is a classic.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 09:41 PM
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24. Rumi (1207-1273)
I tried to find Him on the Christian cross, but He was not there
I went to the Temple of the Hindus and to the old pagodas, but I could not find a trace of Him anywhere.
I searched on the mountains and in the valleys but neither in the heights nor in the depths was I able to find Him.
I went to the Caaba in Mecca, but He was not there either.
I questioned the scholars and philosophers but He was beyond their understanding.

I then looked into my heart and it was there where He dwelled that I saw Him He was nowhere else to be found.
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wookie72 Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:57 PM
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20. Sufi Poetry is pretty sweet
And the Rubaiyay of Omar Khayyam is a classic.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:10 PM
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3. That and technical manuals are my books of choice when I have insomnia
:P
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:11 PM
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4. I use this site
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

It's not a religious friendly site, no, but it makes things very easy to read.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:12 PM
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5. I wonder if any of the book burners have even opened it.
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:16 PM
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7. All of the news reports lately have piqued my interest also.
I'm an atheist at heart, but I'm just so pissed about the intolerance if not outright hate being directed toward the Islamic people as a whole.

Granted, it's mostly a small group of idiots (like a certain preacher in FL.) getting way more attention than they deserve, but it would be interesting to see what is actually contained in the Qu'ran.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:20 PM
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10. Good. You should.
My favorite is the whole thing about boinking the maid and Allah says Mohammed has permission and if his wife doesn't like it he'll get new wives and they'll be okay with it. Very funny stuff.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:22 PM
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11. Good luck. I managed to wade through a good bit of it in translation
but it's a series of sermons and there's no discernable order, rhyme or reason to much of it. It's pretty tedious reading for outsiders, IMO, although Arab friends say it's really lovely in the original Arabic. Apparently we lose a lot of the poetry in translation.

It's like most other religious works, making the best sense to people who were brought up with it.

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:38 PM
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16. I might take another stab at it

But, have you ever tried the Book of Mormon?

Holy Moley - that one is, to me, simply unreadable.

They offer the "Mormon challenge" under which it is alleged that if you read the BoM and ask God if it is true, then you'll get some sort of divine confirmation.

But, good golly, after a few pages I'd rather read a telephone directory.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:30 PM
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13. Good idea! Public Quran readings all across the country!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:42 PM
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17. Indeed. That is the proper response from caring citizens.
The answer to symbolic speech we don't like is symbolic speech we do like.

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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:37 PM
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15. You know, that's actually a good idea. I want to try to get through it someday too.
Maybe someone should put together a DU Koran-reading book club. We could divide it up in digestible parts and discuss what we read here.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:45 PM
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18. My church here in Gainesville is doing the same.
Many of the churches, even several fundamentalist churches, as well as the synogogues are doing this too.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 09:15 PM
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22. I suggest reading it backwards
Edited on Wed Sep-08-10 09:16 PM by Jack Rabbit
The Koran is arranged in order of the length of the 114 Suras. The shorter, and I think the more mystical ones, are last. The first ones are mostly those reveled in Medina and concern specific issues of Islamic government and law.

It's a good idea. I just got my copy down off the bookshelf.
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 09:29 PM
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23.  I'm going to learn about Muslim rosaries
Today I received a "masbaha" from a Saudi student who lived in my house. He moved out today and when I came home tonight to turn on my computer I found it, with his house keys, in front of my keyboard. I feel honored to have received it.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:13 AM
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25. A have a beautiful illustrated copy that CAIR sent me for free.
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