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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:41 AM
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Why is everyone giving that Jones asshole all the free publicity?
Redstone
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OrangeGrapes Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:49 AM
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1. Since when did publicity have a price?
It's because the bigot is doing something completely stupid and un-beneficial. Not only is it un-beneficial, but it threatens the lives of our soldiers and the safety of this nation (i.e. this may fuel another or more terrorism attacks).
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:54 AM
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2. exposure of the crazies is a good thing in a way
Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 11:55 AM by fascisthunter
it lets most know what we have been reading about for years, stuff that was once ignored by the MSM completely. Maybe this is a good thing. Or its just about showing extremes for the shock factor and sensationalism.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:57 AM
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3. Good point.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:07 PM
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4. it`s the herd mentality
if fox news starts the story everyone else has to cover it because they are afraid they`ll be left behind.

it`s about shock and awe...even the president of the united states had to make a mealy mouthed statement about that grifter in florida
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:16 PM
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5. "Grifter?" I'd have expected no less from you than to use that word.
You never let me down with your posts. No sarcasm whatsoever in that statement.

Redstone
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:21 PM
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9. Grifter seems like an apt word for Jones
I don't get your objection.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:22 PM
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12. Uh, that was not an objection, it was an appreciation.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:17 PM
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6. yes publicity is by definition free.
It's public relations that's expensive...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:18 PM
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7. THAT IS THE QUESTION! The POPE has weighed in on this, for Pete's sake!
(Peter's?)
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:20 PM
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8. Exactly!
If he's going to yell "fire" in the theatre, do they have to give him a megaphone and worldwide sound stage to do so?

Just another obvious clue that the GOP-owned "M$M" has an alterior motive -- fearmongering.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:21 PM
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10. talk about creating a monster...
otherwise he would just be a jerk...

sP
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:22 PM
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11. Fantastic question, but unfortunately I think I know the answer
Shit sells; if it bleeds it leads, and all that.

It's all about the media trying to maximize audience share.

If the same events happened in 1980, they wouldn't be getting any attention at all.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:23 PM
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13. Yup. nt
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:40 PM
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14. Here's a complicated conjecture:
Unfortunately, we're a country that was deeply, badly traumatized by 9/11. That kind of trauma can have one of two effects; it can either make you wiser or it can damage you to the extent that you are very vulnerable for a very long time.

But it's not just the trauma, it's the state you're in when you're traumatized. America was an adolescent country with all of the attributes of adolescence--a sense of immortality, a rather rigid, self-important idea of having a grasp on what's right and what's wrong, and a clumsy if endearing need to strut and pretend that we're the studliest, the smartest, the best breeding stock on earth. Then we were shown, horribly, that we're as vulnerable as anyone else and that we're just another tribe trying very hard to survive (and I'll say here that I believe very much that we have some good ways of doing it). We haven't gotten wiser as a country; we're still too freaked out and the manipulators got to us too fast.

So now we're hurt, rattled, infuriated that everything we naively believed about ourselves isn't truth after all. We're obsessive about trying to heal a hurt that we haven't yet learned much from.

THEN someone like Terry Jones (or Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin) comes along. He has self-important soap to sell, born in part out of his own personal issues but neatly dovetailed into the national terror of what happened and what might happen. He knows how to become important by holding up the trauma again and again, and generalizing it as well. Now everything's potentially dangerous, Islam, Communists, Socialists, corporations, areas of the country, ad infinitum. He'll fix those bastards! He'll show them who's right and who's wrong! We don't have to grow up; we're AMERICA, we're Christians (this has nothing to do with Christianity of course; it's just the horse he rode in on).

Then the spinners get hold of it. Keep us traumatized and we'll keep compulsively coming back to check and see if something else terrible is headed our way. Give us any lucky rabbit's foot you can to keep us from the truth that we have to grow up and deal with the world in a whole different way. We don't want to. We're STUDS, for Chrissake! Aren't we? Mom?

Then the pundits get hold of it and repeat ad nauseum, the corporate sponsors and politicians who can create influence and peddle a product leap in to make a profit, and voila! We all keep ourselves ginned up and in a traumatized state, unable to learn any lessons, unable to look at ourselves in a new way, unable to do anything except to continue to do to ourselves for almost ten years what was done to us one morning in September.

This country is like an abused kid, and people like Terry Jones and the people who forefront him will insure that the abuse just keeps on coming, unless those of us who want to grow up and become a healthy, wiser, more realistic nation get off our duffs and start doing something rather than letting them create our world.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 03:04 PM
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17. That's a very well-thought-out post. Thank you.
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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:43 PM
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15. It's the 'stache.
Seriously. He is ridiculous and ridiculous makes for good TV.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:57 PM
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16. It seems the media saturated population
latches on to any of the insane distractions foisted constantly when it is deluged with the chosen propaganda item.

I always look for whatever else the Corp owned media would like to divert attention from when trying to fathom the significance of a particularly emotionally-charged news item like this one.

Sometimes it is a vote that was taken that is not good. Sometimes it is a story about one of our puppets behaving badly. Sometimes it is new economic data that is counter to the prevailing wisdom. Either for the right wing or other vested interests, or for the body politic in general. Sometimes it is embarrassing information like when our troops are found to be committing atrocities in our name, with our taxes paying for it. Sometimes it is embarrassing information about members of our president's staff.

It could be any of those things, and likely there are lots more candidates.

Count on it being an otherwise meaningless exercise of "Lookie here, this is what matters, don't you care?" to distract.

How silly of people to fall for the same gag over and over again.



Sheesh




Just my dos centavos


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 03:06 PM
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18. cause our media loves controversy, even if it kills soldiers
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