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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:44 PM
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Don't Ask, Don't Tell ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!
Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 08:45 PM by CatWoman
Rachel just reported :)

found link:

Judge declares U.S. military's 'don't ask, don't tell' policy openly banning gay service members unconstitutional

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/09/federal-judge-declares-us-military-ban-on-openly-gay-service-members-unconstitutional-.html
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:45 PM
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1. !!!!!
good news!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:46 PM
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2. thought this place could use some
:)
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:50 PM
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4. heck yes!
thank you, this is so smile-worthy :D
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:51 PM
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6. ...
:hug:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:57 PM
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10. Indeed!
Cheered me up :toast:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:48 PM
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3. Right on!!
YAY for Sanity :))))))))))))
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:50 PM
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5. Another Link (K & R !!!)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:51 PM
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7. Willy!!!!!
:hi:

:loveya:
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:53 PM
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8. The DOJ will appeal. Good news but this fight is a long way from over.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:04 PM
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12. Hopefully this will put a fire under Senator Reid's butt n/t
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:17 PM
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18. To do what? The DOJ will appeal because the Obama admin wants to give the military
a chance to phase out DADT on his orders, not a federal judges.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:41 PM
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24. It is a LAW
which is now sitting in the senate, it can't be done by an order
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:48 PM
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29. The senate is not going to take up anything that Obama doesn't want them to take up.
The Obama admin has shown that they want this to be done on their schedule in conjunction with the military.

Don't you think that with a Dem house and senate with a Dem POTUS they could have ended DADT any time they wanted?
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:40 PM
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36. yeah , but they're chicken shit and are
A BUNCH OF WIMPS WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYTHING it appears. I don't trust Obama , frankly. I'll believe when it happens. I believe they are waiting to see how they do come November. Ley them play politics with someone elses rights
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:54 PM
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37. It will be done during a lame duck session and will give Obama the authority
to decide to end it when he determines it to be the best time. This will give Obama the political points to say he ended it and allow him to mollify the Pentagon as they will have time to prep for it.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:59 PM
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39. perhaps
I've been around a long time, we'll see
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:11 AM
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51. At the cost of how many victims of DADT? Obama cares more about political posturing than the lives..
...of the men and women affected adversely by DADT.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:36 PM
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34. Yes a law that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. nm
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:56 PM
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38. Unfortuantely only according to one Federal judge.
The DOJ will be instructed to appeal the decision until it is political expedient for the POTUS.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 02:14 PM
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55. And we will never be politically expedient for Obama.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:56 PM
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9. Rec! nt
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:00 PM
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11. K & R
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:05 PM
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13. Great news!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:06 PM
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14. k&r
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:08 PM
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15. Great news...
k&r

:bounce: :woohoo: :applause:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:11 PM
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16. K & R!
:hi: Catwoman! :hi:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:35 PM
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21. ....
:hi:

:)
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:13 PM
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17. Well, duh.
Cue the Vonage theme, but--well, duh.

:woohoo:
rocktivity
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:18 PM
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19. K & R Good news indeed!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:28 PM
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20. From a lawsuit filed by the Log Cabin Republicans
We have Republicans suing a Democratic administration to allow gays and lesbians to openly serve in the military.

The mind boggles.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:38 PM
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22. Does start to have that through the looking glass feel, doesn't it? nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:42 PM
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:39 PM
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23. Thanks, good news!!
I'm off to bed, but if the mr. keeps me awake snoring I may catch Rachel on the replay!

And I hope that any challenges are shot down! :hi:
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:42 PM
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25. K&R Nice to see some good news
:)
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:42 PM
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27. YAAAAAY!!!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:46 PM
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28. Hell yeah! and let that dog lie.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:51 PM
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30. Great news
but what will the DOJ do now...
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:55 PM
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31. ...
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:29 PM
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32. What are the practical implications of this?
?
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:50 PM
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43. A good question.
First, one must expect the issue to be taken to the appellate court.

That means the Obama administration is in a bit of a pickle. The left, ostensibly the President's base, wants DADT to go away, as in fact does a majority of the population. The President, an incrementalist, was operating on his own timeline for this. The Obama administration was in the middle of a long process of getting the military to decide for itself that the policy was stupid and needed to be changed, but now the district court ruling puts them in a situation: either adopt a new, workable policy immediately or appeal the judge's decision, thereby making the base howl. So either the President gives a gift to the right (red meat for the anti-gay crowd) by accepting the decision or alienates his base by appealing it.

The judge has done the President no favors by making this ruling less than two months before an election.

In terms of actual justice, the implications of this are all good. It forces the opponents of allowing gay Americans to serve openly to justify their policy, and since the policy is indefensible, the death knell of DADT has finally been sounded. Within a year, we may now be certain, the policy will be another sad page in our sordid history - as it should be.

A great ruling. Dubious timing.
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 01:19 PM
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54. Gay soldier dance parties!!!....obviously.
Yeeeeaaahh!

lol
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 07:40 PM
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57. Aside from the obvious
Follow along with me here. Assume that Obama's Justice dept appeals all the way to the top, which seems likely enough. Assume that the case is fast tracked at each step, so that its dosnt drag along, which is probably far too optomistic. Say the SCOTUS holds this ruling, which is also probably drastically over optomistic.

Then what happens. What are the practical applications of this ruling, assuming it is upheld?
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:34 PM
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33. Good. nt
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:38 PM
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35. Suck it fundies!!!
Fuck off, eat shit and die!!! :woohoo: :toast:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:00 PM
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40. A High Court with Justice for All uppermost in its decisons
Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 11:03 PM by Tsiyu



Is what I hope this eventually means.

if so, Happy Day!

Edit to add: It's not over yet, but it's a step in the right direction





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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:23 PM
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41. KandR.
peace~
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:25 PM
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42. Nice!!!!!!!
I wonder if the Gov will appeal it?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:55 PM
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44. omfg. Does this mean an injunction will stop discharges?
This is great news! LOL
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:58 PM
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45. K&R
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 03:25 AM
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46. Let's get this to the Supreme Court!
Of course, it could be stopped with the single stroke of Obama's pen but we won't go there right now. Yay!!!!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 03:26 AM
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47. Let's get this to the Supreme Court!
Of course, it could be stopped with the single stroke of Obama's pen but we won't go there right now. Yay!!!!
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 04:30 PM
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56. Be careful what you wish for -
with today's USSCt I wouldn't feel overly comfortable with seeing what their ruling on the constitutionality of DADT might be.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 08:29 AM
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48. K&R
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 09:10 AM
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49. K&R
:woohoo:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 09:28 AM
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50. K & R
:thumbsup:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:51 AM
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52. If Obama/CIC can keep this policy going....then they could resegregate the military!!!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 12:28 PM
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53. K&R
It's unconstitutional and stupid.
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