don't women of laura bu$hs* age normally have a few wrinkles?

[spanone]

not a single wrinkle on her face

as she appears on cnn - age 63

[bettyellen]

1. not women w $$$ these days. Botox and fillers take care of that

[rfranklin]

16. It's the Joan Rivers regime...

Complete facelift every few years.

[mzteris]

not necessarily - it's in the genes

my mother's side of the family (from her mother's side), are very "wrinkle-free". My aunt was nearly seventy and had the complexion of a woman in her 30's. My mom was in her seventies and had hardly any wrinkles (although she'd had acne when she was younger so her complexion wasn't as "clear").

Also, many African American women are also "wrinkle free".

[pipi_k]

9. True...my mom didn't start to look her age till she was past 60, and...

I myself am 57 but people have told me my skin looks like it's 35 years old.


I quit smoking, don't drink, and...most importantly...have never been a sun worshipper.


No real skin regimen, either...soap and water twice a day, Noxzema to moisturize.

That's it.

I laugh when I see women spending hundreds of dollars on skin products they think will stop the aging process.

[monmouth]

11. I agree. Good soap and a good rinse truly is the only thing to remove

makeup thoroughly and then a good moisturizer. Mom always said in case of fire, grab your pocketbook and moisturizer..LOL..

[Raschel]

70. My grandmother used "cold cream every night to remove dirt and make up.

Sat in the sun about 15 minutes a day and had wine every night. She died at age 100 and her skin looked amazingly young.

[mzteris]

20. never ever ever go to bed with makeup on -

that was my Mother's mantra. I can count on one - okay two - hands the number of times I've broken that rule in my life. I have had some women (10-15 yrs my jr) comment on "how jealous" they are of my lack of wrinkles.

I used to "tan" all the time when I was younger - and rarely used sunscreen of any strength. And I do indulge in a wee bit o' the grape.

[Kalyke]

43. Yup... same skin regiment.

Hell, I have to spend more on the occasional hormonal pimple break out than wrinkles!

Edited to add: And I'm 40. My moisturizer is called Vaseline. The Flaming Lips would adore me.

[GoCubsGo]

13. Yep.

My mom like that, too. Not to mention that she's 73 and doesn't have a single gray hair on her head--and she doesn't dye it.

[tabatha]

18. African women age very well.

[avaistheone1]

67. Italian women age well

Just look at Sophia Loren. Va va voom.

[emilyg]

26. True. I'm

72 and not a wrinkle - just like my Mom.

[pitohui]

47. the internet is a wonderful place

there is no 72 year old living who is wrinkle free who did not have work done

there is no 52 year old living who is wrinkle free who did not have work done

i'm 92 and not a wrinkle thanks to botox

[emilyg]

65. Good genes and never

using make-up. Moisturizing every night. Don't care if you believe me or not.

[roxiejules]

29. Genes have a lot to do with it

my Grandmother didn't have a single wrinkle on her face until she was old-old. She swore it was the Pond's cold cream!

[Hannah Bell]

34. laura bush smokes, & has for a long time. she's had work done.

[Kalyke]

46. That's summore bullshit.

I smoke and I have no wrinkles.

I'm tired... very tired... of hearing how awful smoking is when pollution is MUCH MUCH MUCH worse than pollution to both our skin and lungs.

[Hannah Bell]

54. whatever you say:

http://schizoamerica.com/2009/01/laura-bushs-plastic-surgery/

[pitohui]

45. that is hilarious you are truly naive

well back in the day women had abortions in the dark excuse me they went away to study in europe for a year instead of coming back in a baby and now apparently there are actually those naive enough to think you will be wrinkle free if it's in your dreams

honey it takes 5 minutes and it's called botox


i don't want to call people out but there is no such thing as a woman over age 50 who does not have wrinkles unless she has "work" done, a lot of women lie about the work done so i honor those who are honest

[mzteris]

62. wow - how insulting you are.

I'm over 50 and I don't "have wrinkles" - and I can assure you that I have NEVER had "work done" - neither did my mom or her sister, or my sister who is over 60.

You have no idea what you're talking about here. None at all. I'm sorry you evidently don't know any women with "good genes", or maybe you just assume that all women are lying and vain.

[LiberalLoner]

2. Probably a combo of great makeup, good genes, maybe some procedures like

acid peels, etc.

[xchrom]

3. They don't call her Pickles for nothin. Nt

[mike r]

4. Laura Bush, 2007:

First Lady Laura Bush talks about Burma with reporters at the White House, Wednesday, Sept. 5, 2007
Ron Edmonds / AP

[pansypoo53219]

27. smoker lips

so pretty.

[Lint Head]

5. Is she bathing in the blood of the innocent dead?

[area51]

21. lol. n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. Don't really care

[Swamp Rat]

7. Pickles has such lovely skin tone

:D

[MilesColtrane]

8. Her face is as wrinkle free as her brain.

[peekaloo]

10. The last decade saw an increase in the level of sophistication for

funeral parlor cosmetology.

[Xenotime]

12. Who cares? I hate that woman

[Bigmack]

14. Normally, I don't engage in this kind of shit...

but when I read the post, the word "Bondo" popped into my head.

[HipChick]

15. Caucasian skin wrinkles faster at that age..Alex, I take Botox and fillers for $500

A good indicator is to look at the neck area..many women get work done on the face..but the neck looks like it belongs on a different body..good way to tell difference between genes and a good dr

[Warpy]

19. And cigarettes. Those age skin at light speed

Yeah, she's had some work done. If she stops now, it's good.

The problem is when they do just a little too much. That's when they start to look like they're standing in a wind tunnel.

[HipChick]

28. She can't really stop now..she'll have to continue to maintain her look

[Warpy]

30. If she stops now, she'll age gracefully as time goes on.

If she doesn't, she'll join all the grotesqueries wandering around California, people staring for all the wrong reasons.

[pipi_k]

24. One example...

Priscilla Presley.


Her face looks fantastic.

Her neck....


turkey skin on a bad day

[Hannah Bell]

35. i don't think her face looks that great. it looks like she's had too much work done.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.topnews.in/priscilla-presley-quite-embarrassed-when-given-animal-rescue-award-2207643&h=628&w=500&sz=83&tbnid=l3J60wbM6DsCVM:&tbnh=137&tbnw=109&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpriscilla%2Bpresley&zoom=1&q=priscilla+presley&hl=en&usg=__0OoQYa3Ffrk9CFbrOGnS5N3yw8o=&sa=X&ei=LXKMTNz6AYjQsAPfmKniBA&ved=0CCgQ9QEwAQ

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-546330/Priscilla-Presley-I-fell-victim-botched-plastic-surgery.html&h=1000&w=703&sz=105&tbnid=GHPW-jU1AvX4SM:&tbnh=268&tbnw=188&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpriscilla%2Bpresley&zoom=1&q=priscilla+presley&hl=en&usg=__gbgJ80Yr_aO2ywgkwVgu35HB7U8=&sa=X&ei=LXKMTNz6AYjQsAPfmKniBA&ved=0CCYQ9QEwAA

her neck, otoh, looks what i'd call normal for her age. doesn't look like a turkey neck to me.

looks like she's had some bad cheek implants or filler or something & some of it moved.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://news.makemeheal.com/celebrity-plastic-surgery/priscilla-presley-admitting-to-botched-plastic-surgery/&h=620&w=400&sz=72&tbnid=Nd0S_FnqhI_7RM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=88&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpriscilla%2Bpresley&zoom=1&q=priscilla+presley&hl=en&usg=__3EPY3kkuzGIKBmdgWcrQLBY98PA=&sa=X&ei=LXKMTNz6AYjQsAPfmKniBA&ved=0CDAQ9QEwBQ

Priscilla was among several other women of Hollywood’s elite, including Larry King’s wife, Shawn King and Diane Richie, Lionel’s then-wife, to fall victim to plastic surgeon Dr. Daniel Serrano and his better than Botox injections. Not only is Serrano not licensed to practice in the United States and he was actually injecting the women with low-grade silicon, similar to what is used to lubricate auto parts. Dr. Serrano was convicted of drug smuggling and the conspiracy and use of unapproved drugs. He now faces possible deportation to his native Argentina.

The women treated by Serrano now have bumpy, paralyzed and pitted appearances. But hopefully, corrective surgery will help restore Priscilla to her former glory.

[Prometheus Bound]

42. Auto lubricant injected into her face? Yup, a bit too much work done there.

[pipi_k]

61. Well, to be fair, I last saw her on TV

so my thought was that she looked pretty good, while in contrast, her neck looked like turkey skin.

:shrug:

[seabeyond]

73. men too. cant remember the ones, but stalone is one. horrible.

convinces me that if these people with money look so bad after, .... no way in hell am i playing that game

wrinkles.... here i am

[avaistheone1]

68. I know plenty of older women

with pale translucent white skin whose skin is absolutely beautiful too. Yet they haven't used fillers or have not had cosmetic surgery.

I think it is a matter of staying out of the sun, taking good care of your skin, and genes.

[tabatha]

17. Maybe it is the lighting - I have seen many wrinkles on her face.

[LostinVA]

22. Yup, and "stage makeup"

She has wrinkles.

[pitohui]

48. thank you YES SHE HAS WRINKLES

i am tired of the lies, this woman has wrinkles and all the other 70 plus er's in this thread claiming they don't have wrinkles "either" (even tho they smoke like chimneys!!!!) are just as honest as pickles is

sheesh-a-matic, if you're over 40 and have not had botox you have wrinkles

[TBF]

23. Often, but it depends on genetics. I am lucky to have

pretty flawless skin in my 40's.

It is known in Texas that Laura is a smoker, so I would seriously doubt that her skin is wrinkle free. I have no idea what this has to do with politics, but yes I would bet that she has had some work done ...

[REP]

41. Flawless skin at 45 and I smoke

I stay the fuck out of the sun, don't wear makeup (why? I have good skin) and use good moisturizer. No puckers or wrinkles around the lips, either.

[pitohui]

49. better get your eyes checked

sorry one of the most of the reliable indicators for age is wrinkles around the eyes

once they're age 27 they got em

when i was doing undercover and passing for younger this was one of the most valuable things i learned

some things age at a different rate, you can go bald at 16 or bald at 90, some things age at the same rate, almost everyone has reached her full height by age 20, and EVERYONE starts to get crows feet at 27, EVERYONE starts to lose near vision at age46 -- you have wrinkles you are just the last person to know it in your circle find out before you make yourself a figure of fun

you either do not have flawless skin, you are fibbing just a little, or you seriously need to have your near vision checked (starts going out at age 46 for a lot of people)

everyone else knows you need botox, you're the only one who doesn't know

no offense but fibs that give 102% of all women (all normal women and all other women) a reason to hate themselves cannot be allowed to stand

staying out of the sun and giving up your one and only life will not re set your genetic clock, you will still get wrinkles (laugh lines) at the eyes starting at age 27

[REP]

72. Better get yours checked

But aren't you a poisonous little bird (a pitohui).

Some of us have good genes.

[Cleita]

25. Botox maybe but before that came on the scene, there is special

lighting the TV studios use that magically eradicates wrinkles on women of a certain age.

[Raine]

31. No, not if you take care of yourself

by staying out of the sun etc. I just turned 60 and I don't have any wrinkles. :-)

[Curmudgeoness]

32. If this is true, you have incredible genes. I have never met a

60 year old with no wrinkles at all. All I know is there is more than just staying out of the sun or lotions and potions or eating right. I'm not there yet, and yikes. I don't want to talk about it.

[Raine]

33. I think it is the genes

my mother never looked her age. I can't say age hasn't effected me at all because now I have to wear glasses but no wrinkles. Probably one day though I'll wake up and find it's caught up with me and my face will be dragging the floor, haha. :wow:

[pitohui]

51. if you take care of yourself by giving up your one and only life

besides the fact that when i studied it (as a matter of survival doing undercover) and you get wrinkles at the eyes starting at age 27 sun or no sun...if you want to live your whole life in a closet then why live at all?

a life lived indoors is not worth the living

if you are 60 and THINK you have no wrinkles you just need your eyeglasses checked, you gave up your life for nothing

i have v. wide acquaintance and some experience w. disguise and NO there is NO 60 yr old telling truth who does not have wrinkles

if you had no wrinkles you understand you could go to a high school and pass as a 16 yr old...that is NOT possible...you have wrinkles you also have a denial issue

"never been kissed" was not about a 60 yr old starting over, but if you have no wrinkles, you do it, show us how, and get rich and famous...

hmmm i'm already hearing crickets in advance

[Raine]

52. Why don't you read my response just above yours????

number 33, I said that age is catching up with me ...... no need to be so f'ing rude!!!

[Lisa0825]

36. Ever seen "Death Becomes Her?" nt

[proteus_lives]

38. Love that movie.

Last movie I saw at a drive-in.

Cult classic.

[Lisa0825]

39. Yeah, it was awesome... love the references to dead celebrities :-)

I can just imagine Laura, among others, getting spackled. LOL

[proteus_lives]

37. My mom doesn't. She's 58.

Either genes or the doctor.

[alittlelark]

40. Here in the Bay Area we are few and far between....

But we ARE.

[pitohui]

44. um where have you been? we cured that we have the technology

wrinkles on a woman's face (or a man's face for that matter) are now a class marker

i'm surprised you don't know that

if you want to know the age of a rich woman look at the neck or the hands but a 63 yr old woman who has money it would be stupid and political statement of some kind (a la "fuck you" barbara bush "i don't care what anyone thinks) to have wrinkles

to NOT have wrinkles if you're rich is at 63 just being polite because everyone knows you have the money to have them removed so to HAVE wrinkles is being rude (again, barbara "fuck you" bush would be the example here)

remember laura is not really a bush SHE'S A WIFE

[RainDog]

50. not if they're of her income bracket n/t

[pinboy3niner]

53. Why should her appearance be an issue worth commenting on?

It's usually the celeb gossip blogs that are concerned with such things. And we criticize treatment of female politicians that is sexist.

Not that I'm so self-righteous and above it all, myself. I confess--I do indulge in gossip and all sorts of other terrible things. But I find myself increasingly concerned about discussions that focus on someone's physical appearance--whether it's freepers' nasty comments about Michelle Obama or coments from the Left about the 'Leatherface' Governor of Arizona.

Laura Bush happens to be attractive, especially for a person her age. We should all be so lucky.

[Hannah Bell]

55. It's not luck, it's money. And money is why it's not just idle gossip to comment on

rich women's appearance.

Especially if they want to pretend it's due to clean living and their superior genes.

[pinboy3niner]

57. I have graver concerns about the wealthy

And cosmetic enhancements are not only available to the rich--even middle class families are giving their daughters breast enlargements for graduation presents.

I guess I've just become more sensitive to the treatment of the APPEARANCE of women celebrities, which often appears to be sexist. It seems to me that we rarely treat men the same way.

What the wealthy--or anyone--does to stroke their vanity is the least of my concerns. There are much more important class issues--such as the ones you often post--to be concerned about.

:hi:

[Hannah Bell]

66. so far as plastic surgery goes, we do talk about male celebs that way.

and since their careers are partly founded on their appearances, i don't have a big problem with it.

yes, i have graver concerns about the rich as well. but their ability to pretend they look better because of superior lifestyle or genes is part & parcel with all their claims of special merit. it's all about the money.

[Hannah Bell]

56. well, according to half the people on this thread they don't have any wrinkles, so i guess it's

quite common. (cough)

[Codeine]

60. I notice none of them posted photos to back up their claims.

:rofl:

[tammywammy]

63. Exactly! n/t

[pipi_k]

64. OK, I'll bite...

and while I never said I had "flawless" skin, I did say that other people have told me it looks like 35 year old skin...and I'm 57


Tried to find a close up but couldn't...

[Heidi]

58. Men that age, too. (nt)

[lukasahero]

59. Yeah but we don't care what men look like

This place. Geez.

[seabeyond]

74. +1, lol. yup. nt

[Book Lover]

69. Don't men have better things to do than make snide comments on a woman's physical appearance? (nm)

[Iggo]

71. This thread's still going?

Unbelieveable!

[seabeyond]

75. ah ha... i hear ya. came back to it after a day, and look. active, lol. nt

[demmiblue]

76. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. n/t