They Want God Back In the Government

[discocrisco01]

http://www.etruth.com/Know/News/Story.aspx?ID=522758">Some people think it is time for a revival

Are we ready for a revival? Glenn Beck has said President Obama has bad theology. Remember the old "liberation" theology that ruined Central America in the 1980s? Obama is misguided in believing this.


Never mind all Christ-centered theology is liberating, Christians believe we are saved by God's grace through Jesus. He frees us from sin. Because of our love to God and to our neighbors (Matt. 22:39), we are to reach out to aid our neighbors (Matt 25:31-46). This seems to me like Christians reaching out into the society.


Are we ready for a revival? I know I struggle with this. Imagine, what if the Holy Spirit became such a force in our nation that our churches would be full of people clamoring to hear the word? What if, by the presence of the Holy Spirit, Christians saw to not only their church family needs, but the communities where they are? Needs such as poverty, drug abuse, gangs, etc., would be a top priority for believers.


What if, by the power of the Holy Spirit, our leaders were swept up into being faithful believers? Not only would the church be vibrant and alive, business leaders would get caught up and the majority would run their businesses as a ministry. Ethical and fair treatment of all employees would be the norm.


What if the Holy Spirit sweeps into our governments as well? What if the church seeing the society's needs demands the Christians in elected office use their resources for society's common good?

Do really we need a revival? The answer is no because I just do not trust these people in power. I have no problem with them as long they do not control the government, because history shows time after time that when the church is power results it results in tyranny

No where in New Testament does it discuss about setting up a Christian Republic. Jesus warned about the powers of Pharisees and Saducees and putting the religious right in power is the same thing of putting the Pharisees and Saducees in power. Therefore, let's keep church out of the government and just stick to preach the gospel.

[Yeshuah Ben Joseph]

1. My kingdom is not of THIS world

Just as true today as it was when I said it way back when.

Yeah, someday I'll come back and do that 1000 year thing. But that's when Dad & I decide it's time.

Any attempts at man made theocracy are not endorsed by Us.

[hfojvt]

16. (ahem)

Matthew 6: 10 - "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."

[JerseygirlCT]

2. We need a revival

Doesn't have to be a Christian one, or even a religious one.

But we need many, many revivals, wherein people are reminded that not one of us is, in John Donne's words, an island. We need to come to an awakening, wherein we realize that what hurts my neighbor, hurts me, and that what helps my neighbor helps us all. Where looking past self-interest toward everyone's betterment is the celebrated and even expected outlook.

[opihimoimoi]

19. we need a revival for Reason Truth Clarity and Common Sense

items missing from them GOPers Realm

[JerseygirlCT]

24. And compassion

which is now being treated by many in the GOP as something inherently evil and un-American.

And that's very very sad.

[opihimoimoi]

30. agree....Some say = to empathy...:o)

[shraby]

3. As far as I can see, God never was in our government only

in oblique references to him/her.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

4. "the old 'liberation' theology that ruined Central America in the 1980s"

Great. Now I can't express what I think or I'll be on the wanted list.

FOESADIAF, Beck.

[Arkana]

5. The framers drew up the government specifically to keep God OUT.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

6. but somehow "someone" snuck in the god bit on our currency.

It will be very hard to undo that one.










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[Historic NY]

7. GOD didn't showup until 1954 in the Pledge...or our motto until 1956...

just where was he?

[MineralMan]

8. The Dominionists want control. They've wanted it for a long

time. Evil bunch of theocrats, they are.

[Initech]

13. They want a fundamentalist theocracy, and they'll stop at nothing to get it.

It's scary to think that's where we're headed. The dominionists are a very scary group - they're no different than the Taliban and when they gain control we'll see a very different country.

[MineralMan]

14. You're absolutely right. We have to stop them.

[pansypoo53219]

9. republikkklans are willing to burn down the country,

to win the power.

[Orsino]

10. They want their God to replace the government that protects us from them.

They want us to shut up and kneel, of course. There is still too much questioning of authority for their taste.

[OmahaBlueDog]

12. Not quite, but you're on the right track

They wans ALL educational and social services turned over to the faith community, which is where hard core conservatives feel that they belong. The government should get out of the business of things like schools, Head Start, Section 8, WIC, Food Stamps, and other forms of social service. Once out of these businesses, the savings should go back to Americans in the form of tax cuts.

[Odin2005]

11. They better keep their "God: Bullshit away from our government!

[mmonk]

15. Then send them back to the dark ages where they belong.

[pleah]

17. Fuck that!

[ck4829]

18. But since God can't come down and rule, they will do so in his stead

[HockeyMom]

20. I heard enough of it in 12 years of catholic school

I don't need, or want, to hear any more of it, thank you very much.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. If ever there was a time for

this, it's here.

[desertrat777]

22. Who is this "We," anyway?

The collective "we" is a grouping of many cultures and subcultures and religious practitioners and those who have no religion or no named religion or spiritual path. Unfortunately, some of us think that they have The Truth, and nobody else does, and so feel justified in ramming their religion down other people's throats. All the religions of the book, namely Christianity, Judaism and Islam, claim that they have The Truth, and it is their job to spread The Truth. As a result, war, persecution and genocide have taken place over the centuries in the name of their god. Accepting that other "nonbelievers" might have a valid spiritual path is not on their agenda. Most Americans like to think of themselves as tolerant of others who are different--that is the good part of America. Unfortunately, the other part also exists. The separation of church and state is more important now than ever.

[Raster]

23. My simple request: Please keep your religion out of my government.

You can do any damn thing you please--or pleases you--in the privacy of your bedrooms and chapels, tabernacles and mosques.

[krabigirl]

25. Yuck,..any talk about a theocracy makes me want to puke and run away at the same time.

[Taverner]

26. Keep your imaginary friends out of my Government!!!!!

[dimbear]

27. The earliest Christian communities made important decisions

by casting lots. Or as we would say, throwing dice. That's only better than a Republican administration. Not the best we can do.

[mrmpa]

28. God left govt, because she couldn't take the insanity of the religious right

Whenever a discussion about whether God is male or female, I respond with the following

When I see the beauty of it all, I say only a woman could create this.
When I see the horror of it all, I say only a man could create this.

I'm not bashing men, and I apologize if I have offended anyone. However, you could look at it as saying that God is neither man nor woman, but in an incorporation of both the best and worst of both sexes.

[johnaries]

29. So they support Sharia Law?

:shrug:

[Wraith20878]

31. A lot of Beck fan's refer to the word "Creator" in the Declaration

They say creator is a reference to god. But if you read the words, it's "they are endowed by "Their" creator." This implies that it could be a different creator for different citizens rather than "our" creator, which would employ only one. Jesus, of course is never mentioned in either the Declaration or the Constitution. The words "Under God" were added to the pledge of allegiance after the cold war. The motto "In god we Trust" wasn't adopted till the cold war either. If anything God was a recent addition to our Government, and to get back to what the founders wanted references to God should be removed.

[PurityOfEssence]

32. The Declaration is a position paper at a time of strife; the Constitution is the law

They constantly conflate these two documents out of naked deception.

You are entirely correct on all this, and it bears reminding that "ceremonial deism" is a virulent precursor to theocracy. Religion plays for keeps, period. Those who poo-pooh those of us who want endorsement of the Ten Commandments or offenses like "In God We Trust" on our money as being spoilsports are often the very ones who use encroachments like these as PROOF that religion belongs in our government.

[felix_numinous]

33. Where are the defenders of the Republic, to put these dominionists in their place

as citizens along with all the others who have made personal lifestyle choices??? Representatives supporting a division of church and state would get a lot of votes!!!

Their MONEY is buying their influence, and until their meddling in politics loses their tax exempt status, they will continue bribing their way into power. The old guard white males are turning a blind eye (and opening their pockets) to this theocratic influence, as they do not feel threatened by it.

But if you are a woman, gay, foreign or a minority, you do view these people as a real and domestic threat--as we all should.