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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 09:00 AM
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Can anyone help me find a solid resource on how many jobs have been outsourced since 2001?
I want it for my next editorial comparing the wars,tax cuts,and the economy that these tax cuts were supposed to spur(in a time of war,nonetheless)
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 09:18 AM
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1. 15 million since 1986 . At least 5.5 million since 2000.
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/Norma_Sherry/out_sourcing_america-job%20loss%20and%20unemployment.htm


Job Exodus
Percentage of jobs lost since 2001 in heavily outsourced sectors
-10.2% Software publishers (except Internet)
-10.3% Accounting, bookkeeping, and payroll
-10.6% Telephone call centers
-14% Computer systems design
-24% Computer and electronic products
SOURCE: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/147848/outsourcing_jobs_is_hurting_americas.html?cat=3

Since 2000, the U.S. has lost 5.5 million manufacturing jobs, with 2.1 million of those jobs being lost in the last two years alone. Since 2001, over 42,400 factories have closed in the U.S., and another 90,000 are considered at severe risk of closing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-elk/obama-solution-to-stop-ou_b_484413.html
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 09:29 AM
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3. Bookmarked
and kicked.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 09:45 AM
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4. The article does not cite specific BLS sources for those figures.
Edited on Mon Sep-13-10 10:04 AM by leveymg
I've spent a lot of time researching this subject, and have not seen those statistics cited by BLS. Without specific references that can be checked, we should not take this at face value. Associated Content is not a professional publication.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 08:12 PM
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11. excellent resources...thank you-they will help greatly
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 09:25 AM
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2. The motherload for such data is the US Commerce Dept, Bureau of Economic Analysis
Edited on Mon Sep-13-10 10:16 AM by leveymg
There are literally dozens of data-bases covering US trade, multinational corporations, jobs, revenues, balance of trade with various countries in the BEA data sets, most of which are pretty easy to understand and access. See, particularly, See, US Dept. of Commerce, Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA), Operations of Multinational Companies, http://www.bea.gov/international/di1usdbal.htm, Industry detail (includes all industries), Position on a historical-cost basis, total financial flows without current-cost adjustment, and income without current-cost adjustment, 2005-2009| XLS

The most responsive estimate I have for you based upon this data is for MNCs, which employ abut 20 percent of the US workforce. The BEA says U.S.-based multinationals have shed about 2 million jobs since 2007, creating 1.3 million offshore.

Tell me specifically what you're looking for with regard to outsourcing, and maybe I have already crunched the numbers. I've found a good approach is to do a net trade deficit approach and convert that into employment figures (jobs gains and losses) in various industries. To do that, you can cross-reference with US Dept. of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) data. I've already done it for the Indian IT-Business Process Outsourcing sector, and the results might surprise you. The net current impact for Trade in Services with India is very small, about .1 percent in IT, because overall the US enjoys a sizable surplus in trade in services (a global net surplus of about $150 billion a year) and the current Q1 2010 trade deficit with India in the IT subsector is quite small (about $191 million (1), which equates to less than 2000 F/T positions in a 3.6 million US Information sector workforce). The biggest problem is not in Services, but in Trade in Goods, particularly manufacturing, and the deficit in manufactured goods with China is the single primary trade source that leads to U.S. job losses, with Mexico, Japan, and Germany following. The U.S. trade deficit in goods worldwide is on the way to a $600 billion deficit in 2010, which equates to 6-9 million U.S. jobs.

The bottom-line finding is that the single largest contributor to US jobs losses in the last decade has been layoffs and offshoring jobs by U.S.-based Multinational Corporations, which have been laying off Americans at a rate twice that of other corporations in this country. The U.S.-based MNCs have eliminated about 2 million U.S. positions since the current recession started in late 2007, creating about 1.3 million positions offshore.

(1) See, BEA, http://www.bea.gov/international/bp_web/simple.cfm?anon=514770&table_id=10&area_id=37, data for US-India trade in goods and services, Table 12.

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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 10:12 AM
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5. Ronnie Raygun opened an office in DC to help...
corporations move offshore. Starting with a trickle, we now have a continuing flood of manufacturers moving to other countries. Among the hardest hit were machinists, tool and die makers, sheet metal workers and other highly skilled blue collar, i.e.middle class, personnel. We don't make things any more.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 10:24 AM
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6. That's right - without a U.S. manufacturing base, we have hollowed out the American middle class
There are two kinds of jobs left: low-end service jobs (burger flipping) making about $7/hr -- which is about what a qualified IT software engineer in India makes -- and high-end corporate service workers, many of whom work for multinationals, who still make $100,000, give or take. But, even high-end service jobs are getting eliminated now, which has particularly alarmed some, as it shows that everybody's job can be outsourced, even lawyers, engineers with Masters degrees, and (gasp) corporate upper management . . .
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:14 PM
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7. thank you all...you are a big help
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:15 PM
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8. there used to be some kind of official talley of jobs lost to nafta -- you might try starting there.
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seattleblue Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:20 PM
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9. Why would you start with 2001?
Outsourcing began with a flood when NAFTA was put into effect in 1993.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 08:11 PM
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10. I know-but I am trying to associate with repeal of Taxes in 2001 and 2003
that are fixing to expire...and how our job situation has not improved...as well as the climbing debt due to 2 wars.
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