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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:42 PM
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Why the HELL does the MSM allow the GOP call the expiration of tax cuts a "tax increase"???
It isn't a tax increase. If a 2 liter bottle of soda is on sale for $1 for one week and back to the normal $1.59 price after that, the store didn't raise the price by 59 cents! This is an old GOP trick and only total dumbfucks would fall for it - those are also known as the "GOP base".

I'm tired of their bullshit rhetoric and I wish the MSM would quit spreading it. Call it what it is and nothing else - an expiration of temporary tax cuts.



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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:44 PM
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1. Because the MSM IS the GOP
They will allow the right to do and say anything.

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:45 PM
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2. The MSM have their own agendas: we have ours
;)
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:46 PM
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3. MSM is no ones friend except the for profit crowd and GOP. n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:49 PM
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4. M$M =
Rich
Rich = GOP

Therefore
M$M = GOP
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:00 PM
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5. Because for every 10 Republicans that are out there
calling them tax increases you may have 1 Democrat with the backbone to challenge them. It is a tax increase put in during the Bush Administration to come up for renewal in the election year. If they are extended it will then be the Obama tax cut.
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:08 PM
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6. The MSM and the GOP are both owned and controlled by the same people. nt
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:09 PM
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7. It has an expiration date,,,
there is nothing else to be said let it expire.,
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:11 PM
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8. It's profitable
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:13 PM
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9. that's exactly why mr bu$h* signed the tax law with the expiration dates
it was a double whammy, they got tax credits for their wealthy corporate friends and they had a future bashing point for politics...ala raising taxes
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:14 PM
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10. ahh, they love those mischievous little dickens
they're so cute when they tell Mama fibs! Go ahed, say it again, junior. Isn't that adorable?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:41 PM
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11. because nobody else (Democratic Party USA Inc) is effectively countering that propaganda? nt
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Zanzobar Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:48 PM
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12. By that logic...
How far might one take it back? Someone had to increase the taxes before they could be decreased, then potentially increased again by this repeal. You could potentially take it back to the first taxation in the history of the country and argue it.

The argument is semantic and weak regardless of who frames it. It would be better simply to justify the need and try to get the taxes to cover the need.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 07:16 PM
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15. Well curiously, their hero Reagan raised taxes out the wazoo.
By today's standards, they would railroad the fucker out of town he was so liberal.

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Zanzobar Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 07:41 PM
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16. Possibly
Still, taxes should be collected only if they can be justified. That's the hard part. The surrounding din is argumentative.

I guess my point is that concentrating on justifying the need would serve you better.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:54 PM
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13. Because their own personal fortunes depend on it. nt
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:59 PM
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14. Because the people who are saying it will have their taxes go back up.
And they don't want that. And they see their viewers as useful idiots.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 07:58 PM
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17. Okay, so let's let ALL of the "temporary" 2001 tax cuts expire.
Everyone's tax rates go up. The lowest bracket is no longer 10%; now it's back to 15%.

Is that a tax increase?
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 08:09 PM
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18. because it is technically an increase
When a rate is higher than it was previously, it's an increase. Yes, the irresponsible Bush tax cuts were "temporary" but when they lapse, it still will result in an increased rate.

Perhaps if tax revenue had continued as it was going under the Clinton boom (which of course, republicans are trying to take credit for since they controlled Congress), the results might not have been as devastating to the economy, but it was a squandering of an opportunity to actually pay DOWN the national debt, instead of continuing to expand it. Then 9/11 happened, and Wall St and big business wet their collective diaper, and the economy went in the tank more than Osama could have ever dreamed possible. Bush policies encouraged businesses to push any and all jobs overseas, and the rich got richer while the rest of us either treaded water, or sank.

Now, the republicans are saying if the tax cuts don't get renewed, big business and wall street will not rescue us from this bad economy. News flash: when things were "good" and tax cuts were in full swing, they did nothing to help the domestic economy... why the hell would they start now?
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 08:37 PM
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19. The talking heads make more than $250k annually
This issue directly affects their pocketbooks. It is in their personal interests to misrepresent this issue.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 09:54 PM
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20. They should have expired when we went from surplus to deficit.
Temporary tax cuts, during times-of-plenty, make sense. Though paying down the debt would have made sense too.

But those tax cuts should have been set to expire in X years or once we moved from surplus to deficit spending, whichever came first.
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:40 PM
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21. It should be called a "discount" that is expiring. I read this name somewhere.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:43 PM
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22. Because "marginal tax rate return to 1999 for net income above $250,000" doesn't sound as sexy.
Edited on Tue Sep-14-10 01:43 PM by 4lbs
So instead, "tax increase" is used in those 10 second soundbites.



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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:45 PM
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23. because it makes the statement more inflammatory. and the msm's job is not to report,
it is to inflame for ratings.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:49 PM
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24. If that bottle of soda had been 59 cents cheaper for 8 years...
and then went back to 1.59 someone is likely to call it an increase no matter the "original" price.
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