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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:40 PM
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A "business owner" said this on a discussion board:
Well As a business owner I pay a hell of a lot in taxes. We pay for our workers health care. And....
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Food License Tax,
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon+)
Interest expense
Inventory tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Luxury Taxes
Medicare Tax
Property Tax Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road usage taxes
Sales Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

Yeah I pay enough taxes.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:44 PM
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1. Most of those are what Joe Sixpack also pays.





"WAAAH!! No fair!!"



My question would be --- Who the fuck held a gun to your head and told you to open up a business?



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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:46 PM
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6. I haven't paid any luxury tax.
I feel bad for the guy, paying luxury tax. :sarcasm:

Bill
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:53 PM
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12.  So you would rather he close his business, lay off his employees,
sell his equipment and supplies?

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:57 PM
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15. No, but he might want to cut back on the "luxuries" if he's that hard up.
Edited on Tue Sep-14-10 05:57 PM by CLANG
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:33 PM
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24. What employees. He more than likely sells shit on Ebay if anything.
Edited on Tue Sep-14-10 06:38 PM by county worker
We all pay those taxes just about.

Why should someone who makes their living being self employed get out of paying taxes?

That canard about laying off workers is just that. If the guy has a business that is successful and it is labor intensive he will hire. If not he won't.

Now the question is does he pay a living wage or not. The economy and his success is dependent on consumers buying again.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:44 PM
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2. Every individual is liable for those exact same taxes
Except individuals can't pass the expense along to our "customers." And, by the way, he could avoid interest and penalties by paying his fair share on time and in full.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:51 PM
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9. I pay most of those of those taxes also...
wtf!

Is he making a profit? Or is gubment taking all his money??
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:44 PM
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3. Lots of people pay those taxes, not just his whiny ass.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:46 PM
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4. If he's so upset why isn't he complaining about corporations paying NO TAXES?
eom
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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:54 PM
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13. Uhhh, pretty sure than other than income, they DO pay those...
they just get to write them off against income, unlike most of us (VLT, and non-reimbursed work expenses excluded)

For instance, if Walmart delivers a product from a distribution center, that truck needs plates, and pays fuel taxes.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:24 PM
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18. Uh no they don't. There's been article after article stating that all this past year.
Edited on Tue Sep-14-10 06:26 PM by devilgrrl
Think I'm full of it. Do some googling and see for yourself.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:46 PM
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5. not honest..
everyone pays most of these taxes
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:47 PM
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7. Well if he doesn't want any of those things, don't get them.
However, there is a lot there that has nothing to do with the federal income tax. And the less you pay in federal income taxes, the more you pay at the state and local level.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:51 PM
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8. Taxes are the price for living in a civilized society
If he doesn't want to support his country he can move it on out...Simple as that. I call bullshit on half of those he listed. I also am a small business owner and IMO he is just blowing a lot of smoke..I have never heard of half of those taxes.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:52 PM
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10. I pay a Gross Receipts Tax Surcharge....
I think it was called a excess profits tax until they realized how bad it sounds for me to be paying for the excess profits of one of the richest corporations in the country. So they changed the name.

Bill
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:53 PM
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11. He needs to pack up and move to Somalia...
and practice his freedom to whine.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:55 PM
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14. Then get out of the business if you can't stand it.
Quit whining. It makes you look like a baby.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:57 PM
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16. Well you get to tell us how much you can write off as tax deductables. Did your city give you a tax
break? Mostly everything on that list everybody pays for. I don't care were you live.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:11 PM
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17. I have never heard of an "Accounts Receivable Tax" and he pays luxury taxes?
Congrats on the Company yacht, pal.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:25 PM
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19. Well guess what Mr. Business owner... FREEDOM ISN'T FREE.
:popcorn:
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:26 PM
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20. If we eliminated those taxes and instead taxed greedy, anti-American liars, he would pay a lot more.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:33 PM
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25. +1
:rofl:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:27 PM
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21. And he builds ALL of those taxes into the price of his services.
What a douchebag.

And he gets all of the services of the federal, state, and local governments that makes running his business possible.

What a douchebag.

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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:28 PM
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22. All of us could make a list of taxes we pay.
There is a tax on most things we spend money on. It isn't that he is a business man it's that he is a consumer of taxable items.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:30 PM
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23. Luxury tax is for a high priced car. If you cant afford it don't buy one
and if you do buy one don't bitch about it you fucking wuss.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:35 PM
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26. tell him to pay his share and stop whining
Edited on Tue Sep-14-10 06:36 PM by fascisthunter
this government and it's tax funded infrastructure made it possible for this deluded dope to have a business.

Oh, and ask him if he supports the war.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:42 PM
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27. IRS Interest Penalties? Po' widdew tax-dodger, po, po baaaaabeee.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:18 AM
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33. That one jumped out at me - I had a business for decades and never paid that one
But then, I paid my taxes on time every quarter with my estimate payments. I never paid a "luxury tax" - his business must be doing much better than mine ever did.

Most of the rest of the taxes on the list are paid by every citizen whether or not they have a business.

Why are right wingers such whiny babies?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:44 PM
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28. Damn--got a link? I want to lay into his tax-dodgin' ass. nt
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:47 PM
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29. What is an Accounts Receivable tax?
Although I'm familiar with most taxes on this list, I have not idea about that one. Anybody know?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:48 PM
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30. His business also benefits greatly from the commons.....
..... such as roads, the education system that allows people to grow up, get jobs and support his business, the streetlights that allow him to operate safely, the police and fire that assist him if something happens....... Funny how these business owners never remember these things when they start whining.



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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 07:00 PM
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31. Hate taxes and government? Move to Somalia. They have neither.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:02 AM
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32. Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950
By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY

Amid complaints about high taxes and calls for a smaller government, Americans paid their lowest level of taxes last year since Harry Truman's presidency, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data found.
Some conservative political movements such as the "Tea Party" have criticized federal spending as being out of control. While spending is up, taxes have fallen to exceptionally low levels.

Federal, state and local income taxes consumed 9.2% of all personal income in 2009, the lowest rate since 1950, the Bureau of Economic Analysis reports. That rate is far below the historic average of 12% for the last half-century. The overall tax burden hit bottom in December at 8.8.% of income before rising slightly in the first three months of 2010.

"The idea that taxes are high right now is pretty much nuts," says Michael Ettlinger, head of economic policy at the liberal Center for American Progress.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2010-05-10-taxes_N.htm
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:24 AM
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34. That's what the small business owner pays as well as the
worker and the professional who gets a salary. Those aren't the taxes the global businesses are paying that are sucking our economy dry. They aren't paying much over what they aren't getting back through the back door. Honestly, do you think when those overfed Repukes get up there and whine about this that they are thinking about you?
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:57 AM
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35. He neglected to mention how many are deductible for him & not us
He's listing all the taxes he pays in life, & the rest of us pay most of them as well. Several on his list are weird distortions in the bargain.

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