DNC drops Obama's promise to repeal DOMA, fails to mention marriage, then gets all weasely on DADT

[Bluebear]

Really, DNC, I am completely losing interest. And my donations this year are "sensible" too. FAIL, DNC.

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via Americablog: The DNC has a new Web site up. Included is a page devoted to "civil rights." Here are the gay civil rights promises the party is now making us:

- Enacting the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which includes measures prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity;
- Ensuring full civil unions and federal rights for LGBT couples;
- Repealing “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in a sensible way that strengthens our armed forces and our national security

First off, what happened to repealing DOMA? I do believe our fierce advocate mentioned it repeatedly during the campaign. Why is it gone now? Are there no gay people advising the DNC, or did they just throw out one of the President's top three promises to our community?

Second, "civil unions"? How very 1999 of you.

Third, there's that ending DADT in a "sensible way" language again. What the hell does that mean? You either end it or you don't. And were the Democrats ever thinking of ending it in a non-sensible way? It sounds like a weasel word, and it's one the White House got caught using a year ago. Why do the party leaders keep using this language that implies something short of an outright and full repeal of DADT?

http://gay.americablog.com/2010/09/dnc-drops-obamas-promise-to-repeal-doma.html

[xchrom]

1. It goes with their new logo?

That's all I got.

[Bluebear]

3. DADT was just declared unconstitutional. So our party pledges to end it "sensibly".

Betraying bunch of gameplayers.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

10. DADT is still on the chopping block

The plan, as I understand it, was to get DADT repealed and then proceed to implement new policies/regulations in accordance with the review they are conducting. If it means anything, the military brass isn't happy about the House/Senate voting to repeal it now but nobody's stopping Reid from moving forward on it next week.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

2. "...in a sensible way..."

That phrase really makes me want to vomit. :puke:

What a bunch of political cowards they are. Let's face it -- they are going to play games as long as possible on this matter. Americans are going to have to demand their rights, by whatever means neccessary.

[Bluebear]

5. Separate is not equal, and if this is what our party officially stands for, I'm done.

[KILL THE WISE ONE]

4. they are wanting the courts to do it so they will not pay a political price

like loosing the votes of people that would never vote for them any way.

[gkhouston]

30. They're so intent on not paying a political price that it's costing them, politically. n/t

[USArmyParatrooper]

31. They attached it to the defence funding bill because "they want the courts to do it"

Flawless logic.

[KILL THE WISE ONE]

33. that would be DADT not DOMA

[terrya]

6. Did you see this?

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/17338/gibbs-president-willing-to-veto-defauth-wdadt-repeal-dream-act-over-fighter-jet-engine

Christ, it makes me wonder why the fuck I even bothered phoning not only my senators, but senators on the Armed Service Committee this past summer. Yes, I called Scott Brown's office. Yes, I called Evan Bayh's office. Just to do my bit because this disgusting, odious condoning of bigotry and just plain piece of shit law (honestly, I think DADT, along with DOMA, are 2 of the worst pieces of legislation ever passed in the history of the United States Congress) needs to be fucking repealed NOW.

And now...the damn thing, which even Carl Levin says won't really repeal DADT, might get thrown in the trash anyway.

I watched "Countdown" and "The Rachel Maddow Show" and saw little Miss Anti-Masturbation win the GOP nomination for United States Senator from Delaware. Those people in the GOP are crazy. Batshit insane. They need to be gone. This is where the...um...enthusiasm for the party you've supported all your life comes in. And then I read...this. It's hard, dammit, Bluebear. It's damned hard reading this stuff.

[Starry Messenger]

7. Separated at birth?

[Bluebear]

26. ++++

[Bluenorthwest]

8. Tim Kaine is a huge religious bigot,.

So are several others in leadership positions at the DNC. They agree with the Tea Party on equality issues, and they share the same dogmatic, improvised, lineage free Evangelical 'Christianity'. They think Newt Gingrich is in a Sanctified and Holy Union made by God Himself, and that Rachel Maddow and her partner are just strangers with sin issues.

[Bluebear]

17. Of course, we said that about Kaine from the get-go & were shouted down as usual

[tavalon]

27. Tim Kaine, Tim Kaine

I swear I've heard that guy's name somewhere. He's head of something, right?

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[MineralMan]

16. Why don't you post the title of that video in the forum?

I wonder...

[jgraz]

11. You have to seriously wonder if they actually *want* control of Congress

Couple this with the Elizabeth Warren fiasco and it seems they're doing everything possible to further demoralize the base right before an election.

[tnlefty]

22. But we have a new logo and website!!

Even though the logo stinks, it's all we should expect, eh? I mean that's it right before the mid-terms, right?

'When you see me laughing, I'm laughing just to keep from crying'. (From an old Doc Watson song)

[golddigger]

12. We wanted change and all we got was this damn logo.

[NMMNG]

13. Isn't that special?

Dear DNC. I'll be voting and spending my gay money in a sensible way.

No more "lesser of two evils". No more votes or money to people who obviously don't give a damn, but merely strive to be marginally less sucky than the Republicans. You want my votes and my money you have to be in tune with my values. I will no longer allow me and mine to be sacrificed on the altar of political expediency, Three-dimensional chess, or whatever you want to call it.

Sincerely,
NMMNG

[FreeState]

14. +1

[jesus_of_suburbia]

15. It's Clinton's fault from 16 years ago.

:sarcasm:

[QC]

18. Will the Clenis ever cease causing all the evil in the world? n/t

[jillan]

19. Biden said on Rachel tonite that he really believes they have the votes to end DADT...that they were

going to tack it on to the defense spending bill. If Repugs vote against that, they will be voting against our troops. Biden then said the repugs will try and pass an amendment to take it out of the bill, but they have enough votes...so says Biden.

Hope that you saw the interview.


Forget Kaine - he is turning out to be worthless as a leader.

[tnlefty]

20. I rec'd this and was quite surprised when one showed up....

I have never been able to understand this two tiered citizenship, and I don't understand why Dems seem to be ceding ground on this to repubs. Olsen (along with Bois (sp?) arguing to smash Prop H8, Mehlman finally stepped forth, the McCain women speaking out for what 8 months to a year now, and survey after survey show that the young'uns don't have the same hangups...seems as though the Dems would be more forceful now.:shrug:

I just don't get it.

Ooops, spoke too soon, it's 0 now.

[Odin2005]

21. Bunch of backstabbing bigots

[dsc]

23. wow my rec made plus 1 yippe

This is very disappointing. I had grave reservations about Kaine given his public record on gay rights. It turns out I was right to have reservations.

[Bluebear]

25. you said it. We knew this about Kaine and were shouted down.

Naturally.

[BlueIris]

24. Shameful.

I hate it when I feel like I'm voting for bigoted policy, endorsed by my own party.

[tavalon]

28. But, Bluebear, did you see the logo!

It's awesome. Well, maybe not awesome, but good. Well, maybe not good, but not especially offensive. Well maybe not especially offensive but not heinous. It's branding, you know, like branding on the ass of a donkey.

And the further we dig into this mess of a new website, well, it's shit, piled higher and deeper. I just hope they have a low level intern lined up to be fired for this.

[Bluebear]

29. The ass was a more apt logo.

:(

[m00nbeam]

32. Wishy washy bullshit

This party needs to stand for something with regard to GLBT rights or fall for everything. Looks like they have chosen the "prevent defense" which will ultimately prevent them from winning.

DLC assholes.

[Ignis]

34. Too late to rec (and it wouldn't have mattered), but here's a kick.

:kick:

I can't believe this mealy-mouthed crap is what passes for the public stance of our party on LGBT rights. :(