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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 10:02 PM Original message |
Why Michelle Rhee's Education 'Brand' Failed in D.C. |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. funny - a lot of the locals |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. lol. rhee is pro-charter. that's the second -- uh -- "misstatement" in this thread. |
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jpljr77 (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. Yep, and it's maddeningly bizarre. |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. also interesting - 62% of parents with children IN |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. i don't see anything like that in your link. voters rejected fenty 45% to 54% |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. NBC Nightly News had a piece on Rhee Wednesday. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. And elsewhere. n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. wrong place. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 06:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
48. Sorry to see NBC buying the bullshit |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
64. They went up when her PREDECESSOR'S programs were enacted. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. K & R nt |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. Teachers union won over the kids n/t |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. No, I promise you...the kids are the winners here. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Reading and Adding can be measured |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Reading can be measured? And what is Adding? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. she meant "addling". 'Reeling and Writhing, of course, to begin with, and then the different |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Fuck. That's funny... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. lewis carroll, not me. alice in wonderland. where we live now. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:39 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Ah. Thank you. It's time to reread my old copy that belonged to my grandmother. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. .:>) |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Adding |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. And yes reading can be measured |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. I can't speak for him. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. At least you know reading can be measured |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 03:03 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. I believe the word you are looking for is comprehension. Reading is near worthless without it. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. What is your hard on for standardized testing? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. I do have a child. I home schooled her. She started college at age 13. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. "These kids" == nice generalization about all the kids in the DC system. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. edit: Not worth the continued argument.. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. But the OP's is?? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. if they support ed deform, they're stupider than ever. unless they're |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 06:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
50. Good to see a school privatization advocate on DU |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 06:29 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Rhee is NOT a "privitization" advocate - |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 06:36 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. but her husband runs a charter school & she's the fixer -- she even fixed his perv |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
60. Just one more right wing "logic" point. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Yes. Teachers are always looking for ways to screwing over kids. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I never would have thought it |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Teachers here have done no such thing. |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 06:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
52. Then you haven't been reading the DU posts |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. oh bullshit. spin and crap. |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. By your own logic, the problem is with the kids |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. The performance of students hasn't declined |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:45 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. no, actually, it's gone *up* -- until bush. you'd never know it from the spin, though. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Why do you refuse to understand the simplest fact here? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:54 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Because you say so? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:00 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. no, because it's true: |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Nice! |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. So the sample group was significantly changed? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:34 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. uh, the sample group *always* changes in these bogus ed deform statistics. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 03:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. not only that, rhee is a proven liar where test scores are concerned, & a very public one: |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. "The performance of the students has not actually improved regardless what the tests indicate" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. the tests indicate it's not improved. nice try though. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
65. See #43 . Looks like cherry-picking. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Nope. |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 06:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
53. The PARENTS of the students IN DC public schools |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 06:32 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. the link you gave the first time you posted that bullshit says no such thing. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
62. I'm a (former) teacher. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
63. That's not true, sandnsea. Every teacher on DU has not blamed |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. k & r |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
19. K&R'd! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
34. Good. This woman doesn't belong anywhere near school children. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 06:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Someone also needs to take her tape away |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
56. Rhee's definitely burning her bridges with gusto |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
57. This is a great read. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-10 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
58. Public schools and unions are solutions. Neoliberalism takes us back to 19th Century problems. |
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