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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 01:27 AM
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I have to share...
I got one of those FWD FWD FWD FWD emails tonight about how Obama paid Kagan back for defending him against the
birthers by giving her the Supreme nomination. The email said snopes had lied. If you Google "Obama Kagan" you get a
brazillion hits from rightwingnut sites repeating that same shit.

I sent this...

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Holy shit! I'm flummoxed! OMG!.. snopes lied.. Obama lied... the world is ending....

Oh... Wait... . I looked up those cases the dumbshit email cites, and sure enough, snopes was right.. see below.
The new tactic of you whackjobs is to claim that snopes/politifact/factcheck are lying. Too bad those sites actually
use research instead of your "faith based" rants.

Docket 09-8857... Jerome Julius Brown... comes from the US Court of Appeals... case 095103
go to this site....
http://dockets.justia.com/search?query=JEROME+JULIUS+BROWN%2C+SR.

and read about the 51 cases (There is 3 pages of them at the site) Jerome Julius Brown filed against everybody from Obama to a propane company to Chevy Chase bank... during a one year period. Jailhouse lawyer working the system.

Same with Gary William Holt.. 096790
http://ftp.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/417/417.F3d.1172.-.04-15848.html
"Holt was convicted of firearms-related offenses and sentenced to 196 months of imprisonment. We affirmed the conviction on direct appeal. Holt filed a motion to vacate, set aside, or correct sentence, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 2255, which the district court denied. Holt then filed a pro se motion for writ of audita querela, arguing that, while the jury found him guilty of a Class "C" felony, the district court applied 18 U.S.C. § 924(e)(1), the Armed Career Criminal Act ("ACCA"), which changed his offense from a Class "C" to a Class "A" felony. He argued that, pursuant to Blakely v. Washington, .....

09724.... that's the one by "The Real Truth About Obama"... against the Federal Election Commission.
It was about ..elections commission enforcement. Not Obama.
"On July 30, 2008, RTAO, a nonprofit "527" corporation, filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia challenging the constitutionality of three provisions of FEC regulations and an FEC "enforcement policy."The complaint alleges that certain provisions of Commission regulations are unconstitutionally overbroad, void for vagueness, contrary to law and in violation of the First and Fifth Amendments. The plaintiff further alleges that the provisions in question exceed the FEC’s statutory authority and have a chilling effect on their speech. Regulations in question include those related to express advocacy, funds received in response to solicitations and the Commission’s implementation of the Supreme Court’s decision in Wisconsin Right to Life v. FEC, along with the Commission’s "enforcement policy" on political committee status. The suit was filed against the FEC and the United States Department of Justice, the entity charged with criminal enforcement of the federal laws at issue.
The Federal Election Campaign Act (the Act) and Commision regulations define a “political committee” as any group or association that receives more than $1,000 in "contributions" or makes more than $1,000 in "expenditures" during a calendar year. Groups or associations that meet this definition must follow the Act’s limitations, prohibitions and reporting requirements. 11 CFR 100.5."

http://ftp.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/417/417.F3d.1172.-.04-15848.html


Oh.. and 08-10382... that's a beaut! Louis Lutz is suing everybody in sight - including the President for
"$50 Billion in Damages and $50 Billion in punitive damages" about the Geneva Convention. Read it yourself at..

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2727802/Lutz-v-The-President-of-the-United-States-of-America-et-al-Document-No-1

It's all good, but page 9 has his "Prayer for Relief"
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READ THE FUCKING SNOPES PIECE AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, DO YOUR OWN FUCKING RESEARCH.
THE ABOVE TOOK ME 10 MINUTES.

OF COURSE NOMINATING KAGAN WAS PAYBACK... SHE WAS THE SOLICITOR GENERAL, AND SHE DID A
DAMNED GOOD JOB.

JESUS CHRIST YOU PEOPLE ARE DUMB!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kagan.asp
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 01:28 AM
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1. Here's the email I got....
> >> Subject: does this surprise you? Haven't checked this out myself, you be
> >> the judge!!
> >> ------------------------------
> >> This really STINKS-----------How much of this have you read in the papers
> >> ??????
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Check it out for yourself--------
> >>
> >> *FASTEN YOUR SEATBELTS! GUESS WHO DEFENDED OBAMA IN BIRTH CERTIFICATE
> >> SUITS
> >> SEE DOCKETS*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> FROM AN E-PAL OF MINE.....
> >>
> >> Went to Snopes to check this out and they said it was false and there
> >> were
> >> no such dockets so I googled the supreme court, typed in Obama Kagan, and
> >> guess what? Yep, you got it. Snopes lied. Everyone of those dockets
> >> are
> >> there.
> >>
> >> So here is what I wrote Snopes:
> >>
> >> WND article about Elena Kagan and Barak Obama dockets. The information
> >> you
> >> have posted stating that there were no such cases as claimed by WND and
> >> the
> >> examples you gave are blatently false. Went directly to the Supreme
> >> courts
> >> website, typed in Obama Kagan and immediately came up with all of the
> >> dockets that WND made reference too. *I have long suspected that you
> >> really
> >> slant things* but this was really shocking. Thank you, I hope you will be
> >> much more truthful in the future,
> >>
> >> Bet you didn't know this....
> >>
> >>
> >> *Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his
> >> citizenship.
> >> Now she may help rule on them.*
> >>
> >> *This is really ugly.*
> >>
> >>
> >> Chicago Politics, and the beat goes on and on and on...
> >>
> >>
> >> Once again the Senate sold us out.
> >>
> >> *Someone figured out why Obama nominated Elana Kagan for the Supreme
> >> Court.... Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search
> >> for* *Obama*. *She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against
> >> him
> >> filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born
> >> citizenship*. *He owed
> >> her big time. All of the requests were denied of course. They were never
> >> heard. It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?** *
> >>
> >> The American people mean nothing any longer.. It's all about payback time
> >> for those that compromised themselves to elect someone that really has no
> >> true right to even be there. Are you getting so sick of all of this
> >> nonsense
> >> and chicanery?
> >>
> >> Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:
> >> You can look up some of these hearings and guess what?? *Elana Kagan* is
> >> the *attorney representing Obama*!!! Check out these examples:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-8857.htm
> >> <http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-8857.htm><http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-8857.htm>
> >>
> >> http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm
> >> <http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm><http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm>
> >>
> >> http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-724.htm
> >> <http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-724.htm><http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-724.htm>
> >>
> >> http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/08-10382.htm
> >> <http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/08-10382.htm><http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/08-10382.htm>
> >
>
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