Somebody has to post it: Sinatra, Witchcraft, and undeniable greatness.

[Faygo Kid]

I'm sure neither Christine nor Sarah knows what this is all about.

But DUers do. Simply the best. Crazy witchcraft. And although I know it's taboo. . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YtJHlaLovg

[Ken Burch]

1. Ol' Blue Eyes was steppin' out with Eleanor? When did THAT happen?

(Oh well...Babs looks happy in that shot!)

[Faygo Kid]

2. Sinatra was a big time Dem and civil rights activist until he ossified.

That's not quite fair: Frank never turned away from the civil rights movement.

[monmouth]

4. The contemptible treatment of Sammy Davis, Jr. had a lot to do

with that. Always gave Frankie a lot of credit for bringing this to the forefront. Sammy could perform anywhere but had to sleep out of the establishment, leave by the back door, etc. If you were a friend of Sinatra, you were a friend.

[Ken Burch]

5. Well, whether it was fair or not, I wasn't the one who said it.

I was just having fun with the picture.

Sinatra was actually close to being a Red in the 40's-he campaigned for Vito Marcantonio(the radical congressman from New York)alongside Woody Guthrie.

Sinatra was also under surveillance from J.Edgar and the FIBS(most likely, he only avoided being blacklisted because, in 1948, Sinatra helped campaign against the Communists in the Italian general election).

And his turn to the right in the mid-to-late 60's was all tied in with his feud with the Kennedys(Bobby had advised Jack not to stay at Sinatra's place during his presidential visit to L.A., which led to Jack staying with Republican Bing Crosby instead).

[RandomThoughts]

3. I know what it is about.

Spirituality exists, but there are two sides, even many religions speak of the dark and light side and spiritual powers.

Dark side needs secrecy because it does what people would not allow, it uses control and theft of free will by deception, the light side believes people are more good then bad, and simply showing what is done is enough to corrected things.

Education versus coercion, is part of light versus dark.

Are people more good then bad? Jefferson and Hamilton debate the question in their styles.

It is a really old debate.


To be honest, most people in what people would think of as positions of power have had intersections with spiritual power.

The thing is, spiritual power has been used so some could dominate, not to help many. By some groups, many times with them not even knowing it because they do not think and feel on their actions.

And many spiritual things are actually like this episode of Twilight Zone.


So think and feel, and be what you think and feel is best, while trying to learn, but without alowing yourself to be controlled by not thinking and feeling. They try to wipe out empathy which is love, so they can take over a person. That is why the numbness or no feeling is the goal of some of those things, but there is a good side that lets people feel and express feelings also, and builds and retains love.

The TZ episode posted is an explanation of what the dark side does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7yUAJuAgN4 Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ06wneWlic Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45lY6XxfEoI Part 3

[MineralMan]

6. It's strictly taboo, I understand.

[gateley]

7. Great arrangement! Thanks - I'm smiling! nt