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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:22 PM
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*** New threads- Libby Liveblogging at Firedoglake.com
Libby Live: Judy Four
By: emptywheel
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/31/libby-live-judy-four/
Buy Anatomy of Deceit. Don't refresh wildly. And love one another–oh wait. I mean don't expect a transcript.

Folks are wandering into the courtroom. We'll start today where we left yesterday with the fight over what questions Judy should answer. Glad we had it–it got a chance for yet another celebrity, Bob Bennett, to weigh in. No wonder the courtroom is getting so hot.

It's Wells' turn to be in his grey suit today, not Fitz. Though Wells' grey suit doesn't look seersuckery at all, as Fitz' did.

Walton's in: before we get started, we have a problem with juror 15. Employer said that if there's no law on the books that requires them to pay for jury service, then they won't pay. If she has to stay beyond today, other than what we pay for jurors which is $35/day.

Sidebar.

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Libby Live: Judy Five
By: emptywheel
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/31/libby-live-judy-five/
Welcome to the Libby Liveblog. Some housekeeping rules: This is not a transcript, nor am I a court reporter. Please exercise restraint in refreshing the post. And buy my book.

F Focus on June 23


M My focus on those issues, watching soldiers being frustrated. How had this gotten so screwed up. The big picture. Mr Libby being in Washignton seemed much more focused on growing controversy over SOTU. And who said what to whom, inside baseball. And so from my standpoint it wasn't very productive.

F Your focus and his focus on July 8

M A broader story on how hunt had been so badly carried out and what had happened to underlying intell, Mr Libby seemed to want to focus on yellowcake. My focus was Bioweapons. This he said she said struck me was Washington politics not particularly relevant to issues I cared about.

F I need to approach before last question.

Judy and Jury gone

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Libby Live: Matt Cooper One
By: emptywheel
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/31/libby-live-matt-cooper-one/
This is NOT Cooper on the stand. It's him speaking at Georgetown. In any case, here are some groundrules. I timestamp my posts–that will let you know when you should update (please err on the side of saving the servers). Also, treat this as a liveblog, not a transcript; I'm no court reporter! And finally, please buy my book.


Matt Cooper up now.


MC Matthew Cooper.

MC Editor for Conde Nast portfolio, hasn't started publication yet. Used to work for Time, summer 1999, June 2006.

MC Began year as DPTY Wash Bureau Chief, then moved to WH correspondant. Moved to WH in June. At the time, it went to press on Saturday nights. Generally we took Sundays off, Mondays as well.

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Lunchtime Treats A La Libby
By: Christy Hardin Smith
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/31/lunchtime-treats-a-la-libby/
***Sorry about the server hiccup everyone. While we were down, Marcy completed liveblogging at DKos here. We'll update our liveblog thread as soon as Marcy can eat her lunch and give her tired fingers a break. Thanks everyone for your patience — and please remember to be judicious with comments and refreshing. Thanks much! — CHS UPDATE from Pach: All the content posted during our site hiccup at Dkos has now been posted here at FDL again. Check below this post here and here for all the courtroom updates. Marcy's at lunch and when she gets back, we'll be back in full action here at Firedoglake. Thanks for your patience! ***

It's lunchtime, and I thought we could all use a little diversion. So I've gathered a few link to some funnies — some Libby related, some not, but all in the spirit of fun. (Well, most of them are fun, anyway.)

– The Daily Show did a Libby trial recap that is hilarious. Too funny.

– Be still my heart: The General has the hots for FDL's Libby coverage. And a fascinating sneak peek at Tim Russert. And fubar at Needlenose does a little trendspotting.

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Links to the Daily Show, The General & others are at firedoglake.com
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:27 PM
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1. Everything is going to hell around the house since
this trial opened... I am so enjoying firedoglake threads that it must be fattening!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:36 PM
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4. Hi annabanana, so am I
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:28 PM
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2. Thank you, rapls. I've been watching for your posts.
Thank you for keeping us all updated!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:36 PM
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5. You're welcome Notorious Bohemian
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:31 PM
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3. Judy was sooo uncomfortable
The questions from the judge/jury were fun. They didn't buy that whole (After I realized I nobody was going to save my ass) "I found my lost notes in a NYT shopping bag under my desk!" bit either.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:37 PM
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6. Hi blogslut, yes she does!!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:56 PM
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7. ***New Firedoglake thread- Libby Live: Matt Cooper Two
Libby Live: Matt Cooper Two
By: emptywheel
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/31/libby-live-matt-cooper-two/
This is NOT Cooper on the stand. It's him speaking at Georgetown. In any case, here are some groundrules. I timestamp my posts–that will let you know when you should update (please err on the side of saving the servers). Also, treat this as a liveblog, not a transcript; I'm no court reporter! And finally, please buy my book.

In case you missed it, in the conversation where Mary Matalin told Libby to call Russert to complain about Tweety (because Russert hates Tweety, tell him everything), she also called Joe Wilson "a snake." It'll be redacted in the exhibits. But trust me–it's in there.
Cooper back. Fitz back up.

Cooper's wearing a dark suit, striped tie. And there's a computer monitor in front of him–otherwise he looks like he does in the picture.

F Afternoon Mr Cooper Did there come a time when you received a subpoena.

MC We fought the subpoena.

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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:59 PM
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8. ***2:04, 2:23
2:04

Jeffress Up.

J You had a third source, didn't you?

MC I personally did not.

J You testified at a lawyers office, in August 2004. He didn't put you before GJ at that time. When you were asked about your sources, you said there were three sources. One was Mr Rove, one was Libby, was one of them John Dickerson of Time.

Objection

Sidebar

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2:23

MC an email from me to Dickerson, 12:14 PM

MC Call me from landline.

J you had already heard him before this? Had you heard from him that day

MC Probably not I wanted to discuss this story we were working on

J Do you believe you told another reporter the info from Rove

MC Yes

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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:02 PM
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9. ***2:33, 2:40
2:33

J Reading email.

J where did you get name Plame

MC either Novak's article or from googling Wilson's name.

J If you googled Wilson's name, you'd pull up that his wife's name is Flame. Sorry–Plame

J You did get from Rove that she was CIA official, monitors WMD

MC yes

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2:40

Email thread, Friday, 5 PM

J reading from email: Dickerson dissing of wilson at his end. jd out of pocket starting at 11 am.

J When he reports dissing, he's talking about govt officials?

MC Yes

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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:42 PM
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10. ***2:44. 2:53
2:44

J What is the word in your email, dissing, what do you mean by that.

MC disparaging comments about Wilson. I'm trying to answer carefully. There were disparaging comments about Wilson and comments that pointed to his wife.

J Disparaging comments being what?

MC the precise comments Dickerson heard from his source.

J Let me stay away from that. Tell me every disparaging statement Libby said about Wilson.

MC I did think the effort, let me answer your question in a broader way so I can move this along. I did think the response to was disparaging.

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2:53

Cooper is just confirming each part of the on the record statement. Very blase tone in voice.

J Off the record statement. That didn't have anything to do with Wilson

MC only because WH said it didn't belong there because of Wilson.

J talked about WMD, he's telling you what was briefed.

MC I believe "I don't recall" was about Wilson

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10 minute break
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:08 PM
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11. *** New thread at Firedoglake.com- Libby Live: Matt Cooper Three
Libby Live: Matt Cooper Three
By: emptywheel
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/31/libby-live-matt-cooper-three/
This is NOT Cooper on the stand. It's him speaking at Georgetown. In any case, here are some groundrules. I timestamp my posts–that will let you know when you should update (please err on the side of saving the servers). Also, treat this as a liveblog, not a transcript; I'm no court reporter! And finally, please buy my book.

Cooper leaning back, with eyes closed. He just doesn't seem flustered by this. I think he is just plain annoyed. As if, you know, maybe he wants to be done with this long ordeal. Cooper faced left side of courtroom. He has this disdainful look which makes him look worried. Now spinning around in the swivel chair.
Walton Apologize the delay, but I had to review a consent decree in voting rights issue.

Approach for one moment.

Sidebar. Cooper flipping through some papers.

Looks like he's trying to listen to sidebar.

Jeffress back up.

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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:25 PM
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14. ***3:33, 3:40
3:33

J I don't need to introduce these, but I do need to display them.

J Brings up page.



J were you typing notes while you were talking to someone.

J You meant to type erroneous but you hit an "r" instead, so it became "erroreous."

MC Sure

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3:40

J You wrote, Yeah, I've heard something about that,

MC I'm sure I did but I don't remember literally typing it.

J New exhibit.

Email to Bambi Wulf, change Libby quote to Yeah,

I've heard THAT TOO.


J Did your memory of the conversation change.

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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:36 PM
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15. ***3:55, 4:07
3:55

J starts to talk about forgeries.

Walton Before I forget, I'll just miss the swearing, we'll start at 9:30. The Marshalls have already ordered the food and if we don't get here, it'll be wasted.

J Do you recall the Admin saying that

MC quotes back 16 words.

J You remember after SOTU, the IAEA discovered documents purporting a deal had been forged.

MC Yeah, I remember that

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4:07

J All that would appear in first 13 minutes.

MC sure

J Can you show what happens after that.

(Does a side by side)

J I didn't know we could do that. You don't know whether you said that Wilson quote in the first or second one.

MC My recollection is that it was the last thing before some pleasantries.

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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:02 PM
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16. ***4:14, 4:24, 4:40
4:14

Another email chain, Ignatius, editor at Time

J Concerns Rove.

MC Yeah, and others, it's sort of like your file wrt the Libby conversation

J A strartling charge from an SAO that we need to handle with some caution.

J We find that, don't get too far out. Wilson was not sent.

J When I pressed the official, he said it was someone involved with WMD, his wife.

MC I sent this later in the day.

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Juror questions–sidebar.

4:24

Walton: One of the questions I'm not going to be able to ask, if I don't ask, don't speculate about what response would have been.

Walton: did you ever investigate by whom and why those documents were forged.

MC I think others did. I never looked into Niger forgery question in any detail. I cover WH this sort of had more to do with Italian embassy. For whatever reason it fell out of my purview.

Walton during the conversaton with Dickerson, did he relay any information to you that he had received over there.

MC Yes

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4:40

Walton We're going to break, I've got issues to deal with. I'd hate having you wait around. You'll need to be at the designated point. Breakfast will be here when you get here. I'll get here as soon as I can. I'd ask counsel to be here at 10:30

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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:19 PM
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18. ***4:40, 4:44 updated
4:44

Walton Regarding video. I've had an intern review Libby's testimony, nowhere did he say that he saw those statements. He knew about them or heard about them. It doesn't indicate that he viewed himself.

Fitz, ones he saw, and ones we admit through a person that authorized him. 801D2C. Start with statements before he asked for the clearing. GJ transcript. He admits he knows about public statement from McC, Mr Libby's aware of failure of WH PS to clear him BC one of the times he fails to clear him, the first time he tries to get cleared he's told the WH is not going to go down some list. As he watches it, the list is only about him. At a certain point, during this time, he is aware that his name is being asked and his name is not being cleared. When things explode in October, and being played, the WH is ordinarily circulated. the notion that he's the one person in teh world not watching McC making comments about him.

Walton That may be true, but he may have gotten written documents.

Fitz I don't mean this facetiously. Your experience is different than someone going on TV

Walton there's an assumption

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Fitz. It's not a limit on evidence that you can only introduce evidence asked about in GJ. Mr Wells opened that this is all about Libby being scapegoated, and thrown under the bus. People in the WH are trying to scapegoat me. Note shows him saying I did not leak classified info. I'm concerned people are trying to use me as a scapegoat. Mr Libby tells a source I never want to see my name in print. He's squirreled away with VP, and he says, I'm getting thrown under the bus, but he doesn't even watch. I think that defies common sense. We had no indication in GJ, that he thought he was being thrown under the bus. That defies common sense.

Walton I try to stay abreast of all the statements that are made in this case. A lot of things are made while I'm in court. So I have a news service that sends this to me, so I can stay abreast of what's going on in the case. HOw do I know that that's not how LIbby stayed abreast of it.

Wells it's a very different image. Fitz wants to creat an image that's not based on factual image.

Walton there's also potential argument that if someone is sitting in front of TV. Without there being clear evidence that he was watching the TV.

Fitz There's no denial he spent time paying attention. Mr Libby was also

Walton You've got his own words, as to what the situation was.

Walton, I'll think about it.

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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:50 PM
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20. *** Added snippet from end of the thread- Defense case should start next
week!
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Wells We'll raise it in the morning.

Fitz Tomorrow: The videos, then Bond, then GJ, then another witness we need to discuss, then Russert, Conclude case late Monday or Tuesday.

Wells we could start on Wednesday

Walton if Govt will start Monday, I'd ask you start right away.

Jeffress, We're going to call Abramson from NYT, I think it'd be more convenient if we could know definitely tomorrow.

Wells a rule 29 conversation, the July 12 conversation, given the way she testified, we're going to take the position that that prong of obstruction cannot stand.

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So Defense case should start next week!!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:56 PM
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22. Thanks great work.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:18 PM
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12. Thanks, ralps, for doing this!
It is really helpful to have the specific links to the testimony blogging at firedoglake, it makes any research much easier.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:20 PM
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13. You're welcome Spatizo
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:04 PM
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17. Heck of a day!
FDL is providing a wonderful service. They are allowing us a front-row seat to history in the making.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:22 PM
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19. Hi H2O Man!!
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:54 PM
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21. r a l p s!!!
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