Why aren't the Clintons screaming about election

[Laura PourMeADrink]

validity and reform? At law school, Hillary tells this story that he would
sleep in class and the professor would wake him up and ask him a question
about what he had just talked about and Clinton would answer correctly.

The man's a genius. He is curious. He reads. He's savy. Hell, even
Gingrich yesterday called them, "the most formidable political pair today."

Why then, didn't both of them, once they figured out that 2004 was Wrigged
scream it from the rooftops?

[Demeter]

1. Follow Up Question: Why Run If You Know the Vote Is Rigged?

Is this the Hemmingway moment: "Ask not for whom the vote is rigged; it's rigged for thee?"

[Freddie Stubbs]

3. Perhaps Senator Clinton (and the rest or the Democrats running) do not believe that is its rigged

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. well, then they are not, imho, smart enough to lead the country. n/t

[xultar]

2. Why isn't Gore, Kerry, Obama, Biden, Richardson or anyone else screaming?

[Bobbieo]

4. Other more important issues to tackle!!!!

[oasis]

5. Kerry didn't scream about election 2004, what good would it do now?

[Imagevision]

7. Who knows? perhaps Hillary will need Diebold in 2008? (don't kid yourself)

[MannyGoldstein]

8. The Clintons Have Earned A Spot At Poppy Bush's Table

What else do you need to know?

[SammyWinstonJack]

11. That's crap! Prove it!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Yes, if it looks like, smells like, tastes like, ......n/t

[peacetalksforall]

9. Their motto is SAFETY. They fear being labeled. They run

from anything that might carry a conspiracy label even in the interim, even if proved later.

Look at that happened to McKinney and what they allowed to happen to her.

Middle road politics.

Give me a Conyers Wasserman Kucinich, etc.

Here are two stellar legacies:

Feingold - the only Senator to vote against the Patriot Act

Wellstone - first vote in the Senate - against Iraq War I
............last vote in the Senate - against Iraq War II

Gore - learned to be fearless.

Carter - serves man in many ways.

Give me a fighter and truth bringer. I like heroes and heroines. But, we don't need to put anyone on a pedestal. We determine which ideals we want to live by and try to match up the candidates who will meet the expectations. I let some slide by, but have learned, unfortuantely, that we must fight the DLC which prefers centrist to right, never rocking a boat, always kissing up to the so-called news corporations and opposing party, and then taking over and picking out our candidate.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. excellent ! agree 1000% n/t

[peacetalksforall]

16. I caught a little of the 30 year Carter Admin get together and

heard Mondale say they were honest with the citizens. After 30 years in which the Republicans could have gone after them if they had been dishonest - no one has come forward with claims or proof to the contrary. That is also a stellar legacy. Give us more honesty.

Regrettably, I am on pins and needles about what some candidates say and what they might deliver to us.

Who would have imagined that the Bush administration would have been this horrible - with blatant torture and defense of it. Everything they say is a lie. They have George up there lying and someone on his staff is telling the brutal truth within 1 to 24 hours of Geroge. The theft, debt, destruction is amazing. The cost of war. Concocted reasons to engage in it. I would have never thought it could be this bad.

The good people really look good.
The questionable people are to be questioned.
I won't be gullible any longer. I can't be gullible any longer.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. I saw much of the Carter thing too. Even the press said that

they believed them when they spoke.

Just curious, who do you like for 08? who rings true and honest to you?

[peacetalksforall]

19. Al Gore. Early on, I said Gore and Feingold. Some of Feingold's

votes were disappointing, but I don't even remember them now. I usually sit back and observe at first, but I do choose someone to learn more about and I let others bring out their favorites and try to learn from peers. I don't let rhetoric sway me, I go by record. I seem to have a credibility meter that is set very high.

Whatever happens, I want Kucinich and Dean to be grandly rewarded. I don't mean in dollars, I mean in recognition of their earnest and honest passion and hard work whether by the highest office or some worthy positions.

I think it is unfortunate that we are so taken with all the image stuff that movies (and movie stars) have pushed on us that we can't be honest when we have someone who doesn't come across because they don't measure up like Michael Douglas. I was repelled by George Bush before I learned much about him. He never had image with me. I thought it was a joke when I heard he was the candidate they were pushing.

I like guts and honesty. I don't fall for rhetoric. I go for the record. I think guts are more important than ever because of how far we've come as a criminal nation under this administration.

I believe the DLC got stuck in the 50's with all their bowing to the Republican Party whose leaders have proved themselves as criminals. The last thing I would want in this life is to have been a Congressional Republican leader and have voted with them and for Bush as the Republicans did in the last six years. That goes for the Democrats who voted with them and have gone around with little milquetoast voices. Talk about irresponsibility and un-American representation.

You?

[CrispyQ]

10. Becasue once the machine puts Hillary in office,

we will all be told to shut the fuck up about election fraud.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. hmmm. you know what I find most interesting - how the natl

polls have clinton so far ahead - yet the iowa polls have her behind. I don't know anyone who is absolutely crazy about her (though I'm sure there are some). So how's she so far ahead? curious isn't it. Every poll we do here, she's practically last. Of course, she'd be better than Asshat - but right now, I just can't picture working my fingers to the bone to elect her. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the election was rigged. There must be an "insider's club" that knows and won't reveal how they feel or what they'll do.

[Individualist]

15. because they're DLC.

[MonkeyFunk]

18. Because

in the real world, there's little national will to revisit the last election.

And the Clintons, as very savvy politicians, know that looking to the past isn't a winning strategy.

[spanone]

20. They Will, About One Week Before The 2008 Elections. That's What Happened This Last Vote.

Wait & See. Betcha.