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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:42 PM
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Biden Clarifies Obama Remarks
"What Senator Biden meant is exactly what he said to Diane Sawyer," said Biden campaign spokesman Larry Rasky. "He's fresh and he's new and he's got great ideas. I don't see how his comments could be interpreted otherwise, but this is politics. Obviously there are people who are people trying to make something of it today, but not anybody who knows Joe."

http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/jan/31/biden_clarifies_obama_comments
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:44 PM
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1. I actually think this is what he meant...but man Joe...
Think before you speak...

I don't think this is gonna tamp down the furor however...

And the fact is the rest of the interview contained very condescending remarks about the other candidates...not just criticism which is ok...but a kind of mocking condescension...

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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:47 PM
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7. He was very condescending
I agree.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:41 PM
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28. But the thing is - when is Biden NOT condescending
:shrug:
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:27 PM
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29. what I thought he meant
I thought he meant that Obama would appeal to mainstream white American voters and not just to liberals/progressives/leftists. It was a dumb thing to say but I don't believe he meant anything racist by it.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:45 PM
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2. Biden made the Obama remarks to The New York Observer
Edited on Wed Jan-31-07 01:49 PM by npincus
http://www.observer.com/20070205/20070205_Jason_Horowitz_pageone_newsstory1.html

NOT to Diane Sawyer.

His office is playing "look here, don't look there!". Do they think we're all that dumb?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:48 PM
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8. Yes, they think we are that dumb

:puke: on them.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:46 PM
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3. those aren't the comments he needs to clarify, nice try Joe's press flak.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:46 PM
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4. The irony is delicious.
Hairless Joe patronizingly saying that Obama is "articulate" then trying to explain his inarticulate remarks.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:47 PM
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5. Ooops! I really didn't MEAN to sound like a bigot. Honest!!!
Sigh.

Biden screwed up. While I'm not tearing him down for that mistake, per se, I AM thinking it really doesn't inspire much confidence that he'd be able to run a smart campaign all the way tho the White House. This is fundamental stuff for a politician, and Biden blew it.

Seems a shame to see anyone self destruct so quickly, but it does cut down on the competition, I guess.



Laura
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:47 PM
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6. That is no Clarification , that is validation
that the insensitive gene runs through his entire staff ---- :puke:

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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:48 PM
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9. It does miss the point
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:51 PM
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10. I don't think he's really a racist but he often suffers from foot & mouth disease.
:eyes:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:53 PM
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11. But it's not his first time
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:24 PM
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21. I wasn't aware of that. Can you cite a previous one?
...
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:57 PM
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12. How did Diane Sawyer get into this?
We're talking about a different interview.

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:57 PM
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13. Biden said "clean," not "fresh" or "refreshing" or even "clean-cut"
Edited on Wed Jan-31-07 02:10 PM by rocknation
implying, however accidentally, that blacks are dirty, see? That's why Biden, IN PERSON, should apologize as quickly as possible and bury this story.


rocknation
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:58 PM
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14. Biden deserves the Trent Lott treatment.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:59 PM
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15. Hey Biden, go have lunch on the credit card companies, you miserable puke...
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 01:59 PM
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16. He would be better off if he stayed with plagiarizing Neil Kinnock
As far as I can recall, Kinnock *never* said anything anywhere near as offensive.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:05 PM
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17. "He's fresh and he's new and he's got a great sense of natural rhythm and is a credit to his race!"
"I don't see how his comments could be interpreted otherwise, but this is politics..."

I wish I had an emoticon to convey the egg dripping from Joe's face, and the shreds of shoe-leather hanging from his mouth.

I'll just settle for the old reliable -- :grr:
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:21 PM
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19. .
Huh, what caused outrage here was this gem:
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:07 PM
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18. That's a pretty good recovery,
for a dirty white punk with ties to the whitey war machine.
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:23 PM
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20. This is what Biden said to Diane Sawyer:
Look, this guy's incredible. He is really bright. He's fresh. He's new. He has great ideas.


This is what he told The Observer:

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.” “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”



Sorry, but the former does not even come close to clarifying the latter.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:25 PM
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22. He actually said "articulate" about an African American?!
Rookie mistake, implying that most African Americans aren't "articulate". Next week it'll be "Some of my best friends are black." :puke:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:41 PM
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27. Ann Coulter said something similar
She doesn't think it's "remarkable" that a black man can "walk and talk" at the same time. But that's because she's not a racist, whereas the "fuss" that the Dems are making over Obama proves that they are.

:headbang:
rocknation
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:32 PM
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23. "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean "
I don't see what reparations and backpedaling can undo those remarks.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:34 PM
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24. Even George Allen didn't kill his own campaign on the first day.
Give it up Senator Biden.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:38 PM
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25. even George Allen "clarified" a few times
Good luck with that Racist Joe!

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:40 PM
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26. Wow, I'm shocked...
Joe Biden's foot ended up in his mouth. As much as his gums flap, it was bound to happen, but geez, the ink didn't even dry on the papers yet.

:spank:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:29 PM
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30. well that was certainly a short-lived presidential campaign, huh joe...?
:rofl:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:33 PM
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31. So does this mean Obama is inarticulate!
Now he's done gone and insulted Obama again!

Really it is absurd to make such a big deal of this!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:38 PM
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32. No
it's not absurd.

It was an incredibly bone-headed thing to say. He may as well have complimentd Obama on his large penis and dancing abilities.
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