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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:24 AM
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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg suggests closing failing Newark schools in TechCrunch interview
Edited on Mon Sep-27-10 02:30 AM by Hannah Bell
For the record, zuckerberg is yet another prep school kid, like bill gates & most of the ed deform crowd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Exeter_Academy

he's also the asshole that calls his customers "dumb fucks": for not realizing he was prepared to give away/sell any information they posted to anyone who asked.


An early instant messenger exchange Mark had with a college friend won't help put these concerns to rest. According to SAI sources, the following exchange is between a 19-year-old Mark Zuckerberg and a friend shortly after Mark launched The Facebook in his dorm room:

Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

: What? How'd you manage that one?


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims-wont-help-facebooks-privacy-problems-2010-5#ixzz10iFjj4q9

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NEWARK — Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg suggested closing failing Newark schools, increasing the number of charter schools and implementing merit pay for teachers as ways to improve low-performing school districts, according to an interview he gave to TechCrunch.com in advance of today's $100 million donation announcement on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

"So we should close down schools that are failing, get a lot of good charter schools and figure out new contracts for teachers so that better teachers can get paid more money, that more for performance as opposed to just based on how long you've been there," he said in the TechCrunch interview in a section of the Q&A preceded by the word "DELETE." (Update: By 1:30 p.m., that segment had been removed)

The 26-year-old social media mogul apparently did the interview a few days in advance of today's announcement on the Oprah Winfrey Show that he is funding a $100 million initiative to improve the Newark school system.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/facebook_ceo_mark_zuckerberg_s.html


yeah, marky, bet you thought up all that stuff yourself.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:38 AM
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1. I have a question.
Charter schools are to create competition, the school that does the best will flourish, the one that does worse would not.

The question is..

What is the criteria for success?

Is it a test set by a few people? Or is it some better result of a range of learning and how that can help those in any of those schools prosper.

The problem with the charter school is not the competition, it is when 'money' becomes the motive.


A school that is most profitable by money methods, will have the least amount of supplies, the lowest paid teachers, and the minimum required scores on some test. Race to the bottom.

So there would have to be regulations to move the motive from profit to best results, that is what 'testing' tries to do. However who writes the test then defines the new 'profit motive' of that system.

So that should be written by consensus of society, not those that have other goals for other reasons.

The charter system can set up competition, but the evaluation of 'what winning is' defines the direction such a system will go. So with competition has to be an accurate evaluation of what is better results.

So what is better results for schools. I think it is teachers well paid, and with ways of getting tenure, so they can speak and teach outside of a hierarchy set up by those that make the test, since that is consolidation, and by trend set testing by consolidated interest, will be eventually made for reasons not for society, 'winning' as best thought by people, will have different motives. Teacher Unions, and public school systems can protect that.

Will the test include exposure to areas to let children find what makes them happy, or where a subset of society wants them to learn?

For instance if you believed in totalitarianism, what would you put on the test, to create the learning? What if you believed in expression and many ways of feeling and thinking, then you would have to free the teachers up to teach also from their strengths and experiences.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:41 AM
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2. the criteria for success is: Does capital profit?
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:02 AM
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3. So now it takes just alot of cash to be considered an expert on schools.
Edited on Mon Sep-27-10 03:03 AM by Safetykitten
So he's rich. Now he's and expert with money burning a hole in his pocket.

Why not have him teach in a Newark school for a year and get back to us?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:06 AM
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4. rich, 26, & looks like he's 12. with the same mentality. good at math & incredibly stupid & amoral
like a 12-year old boy.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 05:56 AM
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14. Heard this a.m. on MSNBC
Bill Gates is spending 1 Billion to do a study on what makes a good teacher. ONE BILLION! Call me cheap but, that seems to be an excessive amount of money for a study which doesn't include curing cancer.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:20 AM
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5. Its amazing how much better high school dropouts do than prep school kids like Bill Gates.
Obviously Gates Sr. and Zuckerberg's parents made a huge mistake giving their kids a prep education. What a bunch of losers they are! And add that loser Barack Obama to that list. Just think of where they would be had they gone to public school!
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:26 AM
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6. yeah, cause prep school brats' "success" is all about their education, brains & "talent", not
their family wealth, social connections, access to power & the willingness to stomp over others to "win" that goes with privilege.

i bet you buy the bell curve, too.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:36 AM
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8. Yeah that Barack Obama surely skated in on his mother's connections.
Funny how she couldn't even afford medical care.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:39 AM
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funny how you buy that fairy tale. there was never a time she didn't have access to medical care,
through her upper-middle-class parents, her university (I went to school in the same era), her Indonesian husband (worked for a US oil company) or her own renumerative work for USAID or the Ford Foundation.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 04:54 AM
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12. So you think Barack Obama's story of his mother was a con job?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 04:58 AM
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13. i have no evidence that he ever said his mother "couldn't afford medical care".
so why don't you prove that, since you made the claim.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:36 AM
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7. Just what makes them experts on public schools, then?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:39 AM
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9. Knowing that they wouldn't be where they are had they gone to one.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:41 AM
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10. so if everyone went to private school, everyone would be in the ruling class? what a crock of shit.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 11:19 AM
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16. I would say it is the opposite.
The best way to ensure your child will not be in the ruling class is to send them to public school.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 11:38 AM
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17. There speaks the voice of school deform.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 04:01 AM
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11. Oooooooo... kay...
:wow:


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:09 AM
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15. you really believe that? really?
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