Libby notes-Mary Matalin -"Call Tim (Russert). He hates Chris (Matthews) - he needs to know it all."

[Pirate Smile]

Everyone Hates Chris

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Jurors on the Libby trial are learning many things about the inner workings of unofficial Washington. Just today they were told that "There are a lot of bureaus in Washington" (from Judy Miller's testimony on intial confusion about where Valerie Plame worked) and that the Chevy Chase Club doesn't allow cell phones or Blackberries on its grounds (from Matt Cooper's increasingly detailed narrative).

But today the Washington insiders at the trial learned something too: that Tim Russert hates Chris Matthews. It was the talk of the elevator as soon as the court recessed for lunch. This nugget of information will not play an especially large role in the trial, but I suspect it will make cocktail conversation afterwards a little more interesting, and of course, it shines a bit more unflattering light onto the deal-makig and string-pulling that go into producing what some still quaintly call "news."

Russert's presumed distaste for Matthews (so difficult not to speculate on its cause! Is it stylistic? Does someone hog the newsroom donuts?) came up in reference to the prosecution presenting notes taken by Libby during a conversation with former vice president aide Mary Matalin. She "has a colorful way of speaking" (something the press corps *does* know), and in the course of advising Libby on how to deal with the "Wilson issue," and in particular Matthew's attacks on the vice president, she advised Libby to call Russert to complain and she told Libby that Russert would have an especially sympathetic ear: "Call Tim. He hates Chris - he needs to know it all."

She also gave a talking point: "Wilson is a snake."

The prosecution wanted the jury to see this note, saying it went to "Libby's state of mind." The defense, wisely, choose to argue the note was prejudicial. "If they believe that Mr. Libby agreed with what Ms. Matalin was saying, they might think he'd do *anything* to get back at Wilson."

Exactly.


http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/01/everyone_hates_chris.html

[Bake]

1. ALL evidence is prejudicial to somebody's case

If it helps one side's case, it hurts the other side. The question is whether it's unduly prejudicial.

Bake

[Ninga]

9. Your point may be valid. However I look at this information rather gleefully.

Let's see here.

Some inside-the-main-stream-media-down-and-dirty talk.


Mr High and Mighty MTP holyer than thou Tim big shot Russert vs. Tweety-Mr-bow- at-the-feet-of-our-911-leader-who-bullhorned his way into Iraq??????

I want to see a big time wrestling match, with Walter Cronkite as the ref and Edward R. Murrow as the judge.

It's about time.....well overdue!

[Pirate Smile]

15. Well, I'm on Tweety's side for this one. He was going after Darth Cheney and

Russert was the VP office's favorite go-to-guy to get their lying spin out.

[blm]

2. And the mediawhores obliged and protected WH all the way through election day

while they painted Joe Wilson as the liar who acting as a Kerry campaign operative.

The media KNEW the truth all along and protected Bush before the election.

[seafan]

12. It is indeed time to out these traitorous media charlatans. Once and for all.

This stinking excuse for the *news media* is nothing but an unforgivable betrayal our country.

And these */Cheney accomplices need to be exposed and tried for treason.

[blm]

19. I agree. People wonder why Dems could never get a message out the last 10 years.

All they need to know is what is being revealed about the media in this trial.

Gore and Kerry never even had a CHANCE - and impeachment was a foregone conclusion for Clinton with this media crowd.

Katrina and Fitzpatrick have stripped many of the curtains away, didn't they?

[Beaverhausen]

3. Oh my my- such professionalism at the top

[babylonsister]

4. That juicy lil tidbit won't go over very well with either of them, will it.

Who needs prefab TV dramas; we're living one! :popcorn:

[Jeanette in FL]

8. Share that popcorn

This is going to get good. I can feel the tension already over at MSNBC/NBC.

[napi21]

10. Ohhh, how I wish this was videoed! Firedog is doing a great job.

though. Even described Cooper leaning WAT back in the witness chair while attys were in sidebar.

That's the kind of stuff we miss! Facial expressions, body language, and voice tones.

Ah well, I guess I should be damn glad for what we have gotten, huh?

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. Hmmm. I wonder if Tweety makes more money than the shill Russert?

Inside the beltway gossip...I love it! Timmy is the tool we always knew he was. I can't WAIT to hear Tweety's show tonight!:rofl::rofl: Matalin is as nasty and repulsive as she ever was.

[blm]

11. Matalin is in this up to her big ears. And we KNOW Carville's been protecting her

all this time, too.

They all knew WH was lying for 17 months before an election, and they all kept quiet while Joe Wilson was under attack as a liar the entire time.

TWO Dem strategists KNEW and did NOTHING before an election. WHY?

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. Who's the second Dem strategist? Carville and.....?

Carville is slime. What's he up to???:tinfoilhat:

[blm]

34. Mandy Grunwald - she's married to Matt Cooper who also KNEW that WH was lying

the entire time when they said no one leaked, because ROVE is the one who told Cooper. But through the entire campaign the WH played innocent while trashing Joe Wilson as a liar.

And all these news people KNEW the WH was lying and they stayed SILENT and protected them and let Wilson get trashed in the media by GOP spokespeople, the RNC and its operatives.

There is NO WAY that Carville and Grunwald didn't know - no way.

[in_cog_ni_to]

46. Holy CRAP. I expect as much from Carville just because of WHO he's married to, but

to have others cover up this crap is unconscionable. Carville needs to slither back in that hole he crawled out of and CNN should FIRE him as a consultant.:grr:

I am so glad Joe Wilson took these people on!

[blm]

52. Odd coincidence that Carville and Grunwald are both in Hillary's camp?

Kept their mouth's shut to protect Bush's campaign?

Now I just flashed on Carville's admiring Valentine to Rove in TIME's Man of the Year issue after the 2004 campaign.

[Kurovski]

56. Excellent point, and most likely true.

A desire for power such as that displayed by those you mention blinds them to how sick they've become.

If they were ever healthy to begin with.

[adigal]

62. If Kerry got in, Clinton would have lost her chance

So they stopped Kerry by allowing Bush's criminal acts to go unnoticed.

It is all making sense now.

We need to stop Hillary.

[in_cog_ni_to]

65. Now that's an interesting twist.

Add this to what Carville did during the campaign when he called his wench of a wife, Matalin, to give her a heads up on a recount that Kerry was considering and this makes for a truly fucked up conspiracy.:grr: Carville needs to be banned from Democratic politics, me thinks! Geezus.

[blm]

66. You would have to believe Carville was a lone wolf - I don't. Mandy Grunwald knew

that the WH was lying since July 2003 and how did she handle that fact as a Democratic strategist? Let Rove and WH remained painted as the innocents and let Wilson get raked over the coals and smeared as a liar by the very people who committed the crimes.

I don't think Carville and Grunwald had the party's best interests in mind, at all. There was an overall lack of fight in 2004 from within the Dem party elite. They carefully stayed closer to Bush on major issues like Iraq and barely lifted a finger for Kerry in any demonstrable or effective way, whereas Bush had bignames like Giuliani , McCain and Dole on tv almost every night during the last few months of the campaign.

Nah - Carville and Grunwald weren't the only ones. But they were acting in concert with the Dem elite who did NOT want Kerry to gain control of executive power.

Here's a better view of WHY.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/1/8430/89348

[UTUSN]

6. HaHAH!!1 The war of the FLUNKY EGOS!!1 n/t

[Beetwasher]

7. Two Fat Mellonheaded Idiots Hate Eachother

Why? They both have so much in common. They're both ugly shills w/ heads the size of a Volkswagon.

[Captain Hilts]

23. Matthews really shilled for Russert's book. nt

[hippiechick]

13. I can't wait to hear KO re: today's "session" !!!

:applause: :popcorn: :toast:

THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD !!!

[Pirate Smile]

20. I have a feeling KO wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot poll - at least not on the air.

[blm]

64. My bet is that NBC won't let KO say a word about this, just like they clamped down

on Matthews.

[spooky3]

14. I don't believe anything Matalin says (n/t).

[butterfly77]

36. I hope some way she ends up on the stand...

as a hostile witness...

[Ninga]

16. Oh, and let's not forget that lovely wedded duo of Matlin and Carville.....gee wiz

I bet he gets off on her dirty mouth........."Tell Tim" she says breathlessly......"he hates Tweety"...... she says with drool dripping from the corner of her mouth.....


I HATE ALL OF THEM.....THEIR PRIVILEDGED LIVES.......THEIR ACCESS TO THE BEST PARTIES.......THEIR JUDGING OF MISS AMERICA.........ALL WHILE NONE OF THEM CAN HOLD A CANDLE TO REAL REPORTERS, REAL JOURNALISTS, REAL 5TH ESTATE PROTECTORS..............

THEY PLAY THEIR STUPID LITTLE GAMES AND OUR CHIDREN DIE.....CHILDREN AND INNOCENT IN IRAQ DIE..............

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

17. Sounds like the framework for a new reality show: Pungent Political Pundits

Just another example of how jr. high these insiders are in DC

[BuelahWitch]

54. Maybe a new episode of Celebrity Death Match is in order?

[Hawkowl]

75. Sumo wrestling

Put the two fat whores in jock straps and let the best sumo win! Hopefully they kill each other.

[progressoid]

18. Please, please, please

let this trial knock some of these media whores out of the ring.

Ya, sure, scooter, dick, et. al. need to go too. But it would be nice if the corporate media enablers got a kick in the ass too.

[Hubert Flottz]

30. All of this coming out right when the new congress is looking at the...

Fairness Doctrine, is going to provide GREAT ammo for our guys and gals on the Hill. Bush might have dodged the bullet on the timing of all this coming out, but the MSM coming under fire in the democratic led congress, right when all this is coming out, migh just be the straw that breaks the GOP/corporate media's propaganda ring up big-time.

[progressoid]

49. I hope so. I caught a little of Hannity a few days ago and his panties were in a knot over

the fairness doctrine. He was certainly more vile than his regular vileness. These guys know their heads are on the chopping block.

Lets hope the media lobbies are ignored enough for a real change to happen.

[JNelson6563]

21. This is rich!

:popcorn:

[Ninga]

22. I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANYONE DEFENDING EITHER ONE OF THESE SCUM BAGS.

Remember your history.

Go back to the Daily Howler.com and look at his achives and how Mathews ripped and ripped and ripped on Gore for his cloths and his kiss and his internet and everything but what really matters in a president.

Mathews propped up Bush and spoon fed viewers bullshit.

Do not forget for one minute what both Russert and Mathews are capable of.......

don't be fooled.

[hlthe2b]

40. hmmm 2 absolute assholes: how does one rank who is worse?

such a dilemma...

[kerry-is-my-prez]

41. I think Russert is just a little bit worse....

n/t

[Kurovski]

57. I agree. It is my impression that Russert actually takes himself seriously

as a "journalist". He imagines himself as a mensch and a fair guy.

He's been completely deluded by a fawning cabal of manipulators.

Didn't that poor sucker Russert have a big dinner in his honor recently? A reward for making their crimes so much easier to commit, in the guise of celebrating his book on how swell fathers are. What a firebrand is our Timmy!

Navy Port-of-call Hookers don't get banged as hard as Russert does by Cheney.

[johnnie]

24. Ooooooo Catfight

Meeee-yeoooow.

[fooj]

25. Why does Timmeh Russert STILL have a job?

After being completely EXPOSED last week...how the hell can anyone take him seriously anymore? I never did, however, the MTP viewers know more about his character than they did last week, eh?

[goforit]

74. Now this guy IS THE SNAKE!!! He should be fired!

[asjr]

27. Beautiful! I am shivering with

impatience for the next shoe to drop!

[Ganja Ninja]

28. Timmy hates Tweedy!

He's not alone.

This trial just keeps getting better and better. It exposes not only the Bush cabal's inner workings but their media whores and how they manipulate them with the added bonus little tidbits like this.

[The Backlash Cometh]

29. Mary Matalin knew that Russert hated Matthews?

And was the one that advised them to use Russert to get to him? And who was the fucker who told Mary Matalin about this animosity between two former Democrats? Gee, I can't quite put my finger on it.

[blm]

43. Russert is a close friend to Carville and Matalin - REALLY good friends.

.

[The Backlash Cometh]

51. Do these assholes organize panty raids too?

I mean, shit, this is like their handbook is entitled, "Everything I learned about running government I picked up at a fraternity Rush party."

[blm]

53. No kidding - and aren't Carville and Russert's kid partners in a sports show or something?

DC is just so damn incestuous.

[The Backlash Cometh]

55. It's just unpardonable that they are playing dirty-rush style games,

risking other people's lives. When the grounded, heartland American figures out what all this has been about, someone is going to be made to pay.

[spanone]

31. It will be fun to watch Matthews tonight.

[Norquist Nemesis]

61. LOL! That's what I was thinking

I wonder what the odds are that Russert will be on with him! :dilemma:

[Pithy Cherub]

32. Tweety vs. Timmeh in celebrity cage death match

and it REAL! :rofl:

This was absolutely perfect plus Russert has no creds now that everbody knows he went to the highest bidder - OVP and it's a KNOWN thing. Russert has got to be sick - Tweety gets the last laugh on this one because he's been right the whole time. meanwhile Abrams(who is representing mata Judy and Matt Coop de ville) son is the General Manager at MSNBC. Mary Matalin put herself in the Wilson attorneys gunsights for the civil trial with that golden cow cookie and her husband has been out trying to tamp down interest in this case. Just freakin' hilarious!!!! DC is outing itself all over the place and Timmeh still has yet to take the stand!

:popcorn: This stuff can make you choke while you are laughing. :rofl::popcorn:

[Generator]

33. White House Stenographers

was the best and most succinct phrase I've ever heard. Was that Colbert? Anyway..it's just a shameful fact.

[Annces]

35. I hope Matalin gets put in same boat as Judy Miller

A couple of snakes themselves.

[blm]

47. Matalin is actually in the same boat with Cheney, Rove and Libby.

And let's not pretend that Carville didn't know about this the entire 17 months before the election and KNEW the WH was responsible but didn't utter a word because his WIFE was part of it.

[0007]

67. Poor James! I wonder if she uses the whip?

[blm]

71. Poor James nothing - he's in it with her and helped cover all their asses for them.

It's all a matter of taking turns for this group at this point.

[Cassandra]

37. Presumably Russert was hogging the doughnuts...

since Tweety is diabetic. Oh, to be a fly on the wall at MSNBC! Seriously, it takes a scum as big as Russert's head for me to want to take Tweety's side in this.

[Grandrose]

38. A Pox on Both of them.

:puke:

[starroute]

39. Just google on Matalin and WHIG for loads of fun

Matalin, after all, was a member of WHIG -- and even though she'd left the White House in December 2002, before the Plame business heated up, Fitzgerald called her to testify before the grand jury. She may yet play a part in this.

For example, one truly amazing item that came up when I googled just now was this firedoglake entry from September 30 2005(!).

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/09/its-still-miller-time.html

The tin foil hatter in me still thinks this is BushCo.'s attempt at pro-activity, throwing Libby under the bus (with Judy's full cooperation), and promising him a pardon on the other end if he takes the heat for all of them. He's the perfect villain. Nobody is going to have sympathy for some smirking, Ivy League, summer-in-the-Hamptons silver spoon clown named Scooter.

Here's the rub. And I've thought about this a lot today. In setting up Libby to take the fall, BushCo. can only guess what the tight-lipped Fitzgerald is sitting on. They really don't know, and can only base a strategy on what they THINK he's got. This is a very dangerous thing to do, because it is an attempt to cover up a conspiracy involving a lot of people (and Judge Tatel, in his decision to send Judy to the big house, called it "the plot against Wilson," so they already know it). It requires many, many people to lie in concert. Privately. Behind the closed doors of a grand jury. Who must both place their faith in BushCo., and risk going to jail for their efforts.

The more I think about it the more I don't think this Libby plan (if that's what it is) will hold. It would require an inveterate bunch of liars to coordinate those lies to a degree that their disaster management skills would indicate is thoroughly impossible. And it's a very risky thing to even attempt with a vast coverup involving people with conflicting goals (Tenet, Powell) and degrees of loyalty (Fleischer, Matalin, etc.)

Remember -- Bush really can't pardon everyone involved. Rove? Absolutely. Libby? Well now, probably. Ari Fleischer? Mary Matalin? She was a member of WHIG. Is she going to risk lying? Having the whole thing collapse on her?

[SpiralHawk]

44. brilliant line

"Nobody is going to have sympathy for some smirking, Ivy League, summer-in-the-Hamptons silver spoon clown named Scooter.


Bwa ha ha hah

[K8-EEE]

48. Wow You Should Repost This As Another Thread

Cuz I'd give it the BIG K&R! CALLLED IT!

[K8-EEE]

42. I Am Just So LOL Over "Tim Hates Chris!"

That's hilarious....

[arcos]

45. A snake, unlike she and her husband?

:sarcasm:

[AspenRose]

50. Wow, this is better than a made-for-TV movie.

:popcorn:

[tinfoilinfor2005]

58. I don't think you'll hear a whisper about this on MSNBC.

But I bet Jon Stewart might love to have some fun with it...

:rofl:

[blm]

59. The ENTIRE media is avoiding this part of the story like crazy. They will not accept

the blame for the distorted news and deliberate lies they have been feeding the public for the last 10 years in their efforts to protect BushInc at all costs.

[Pithy Cherub]

68. Atrios has a blurb up about Broder's column

tomorrow in effect saying Fitzgerald came in and trashed the place and it wasn't his to trash. :eyes:

The media is also smarting because how many fresh eyeballs is firedoglake getting and they are yukking it up on the front page and kos had his own fun with the dirt yesterday.

[blm]

69. Broder is one of the reasons media failed this country. Media Transmitted Distortion and he

has always been one of the biggest MTD germs in DC.

[blm]

70. They will target Fitz the way they targeted Gore, Wilson and Kerry - corpmedia

does not let the truthtellers gain the wider audience and keep shooting at their credibility, because the truth exposes the years of LYING and covering up that the corpmedia has actively participated in to protect BushInc.

You should post the Atrios heads up on Broder as a separate thread so we can activate and battle it down. Media is putting their wagons in a tighter circle now that they are being exposed - but only exposed to those keeping tabs through the internet. Mainstream ain't saying a word.

[Skidmore]

60. It must be pretty frosty in the employee lounge at NBC these days.

Just an observation.

[Cass]

63. "Wilson is a snake"

These people are unbelieveable. Matalin brands him a "snake" for telling the truth. I would love to see her get taken down in this thing. She disgusts me.

Actually the whole lot of them disgust me. The fact that there was a coordinated attack from the White House on a covert agent blows my mind completely, even now, 3 years later. There is no way this outing was accidental. I hope to God every one of these bastards are brought to justice for what they have done.

[blm]

72. Unfortunately, that line of attack worked throughout 2003 and 2004 because the

corporate media - who already KNEW Wilson was telling the truth - allowed the attacks on his credibility to stand in their effort to protect Bush's 2004 campaign.

[goforit]

73. Well, Russert not liking Mathews might be Matalins imagination.