Does the * bulldozer incident open up another line of attack for us?

[meldroc]

We all know that the President can be removed from office by impeachment.

Here's a question. Can he be removed from office for health reasons? Maybe we can get a court to declare him to be mentally ill and unable to perform his duties as President.

The one drawback of this: like the impeachment attack, the health-reasons-removal would result in Cheney being President. Though that might not last long, judging by what's been happening in the Libby trial.

[951-Riverside]

1. Someone hit him on the head with a bulldozer?

Sorry but I missed that story, what happened?

[meldroc]

2. Bush nearly flattened the press corps with a D-10 bulldozer while visiting Caterpillar plant

Bush nearly flattens press corps with erratic bull-dozer driving

Does President Bush have it in for the press corps? Touring a Caterpillar factory in Peoria, Ill., the Commander in Chief got behind the wheel of a giant tractor and played chicken with a few wayward reporters. Wearing a pair of stylish safety glasses--at least more stylish than most safety glasses--Bush got a mini-tour of the factory before delivering remarks on the economy. "I would suggest moving back," Bush said as he climbed into the cab of a massive D-10 tractor. "I'm about to crank this sucker up." As the engine roared to life, White House staffers tried to steer the press corps to safety, but when the tractor lurched forward, they too were forced to scramble for safety."Get out of the way!" a news photographer yelled. "I think he might run us over!" said another. White House aides tried to herd the reporters the right way without getting run over themselves. Even the Secret Service got involved, as one agent began yelling at reporters to get clear of the tractor. Watching the chaos below, Bush looked out the tractor's window and laughed, steering the massive machine into the spot where most of the press corps had been positioned.

...

Before the tour, Rove chatted briefly with Caterpillar executives about whether Bush would drive one of the tractors. Rove reminded them Bush doesn't do much driving on his own these days and asked if Caterpillar's insurance was up to date.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

8. They let him drive a D10?

I don't even want to know what they were thinking.

This is the pic of a D10



It's a lot of machine even for those who are experienced and know how to handle it.

[lancdem]

4. Wish someone would, lol

[lectrobyte]

3. If Cheney can get away with shooting someone in the face while drunk, then

this dozer thing won't even register.

[gatorboy]

5. I's a fact: Edwards home is the only man made structure that can be seen from space

[meldroc]

6. WTF does this have to do with Bush and the bulldozer?

:wtf:

[tom_paine]

7. I believe that person was trying to be funny

The only manmade structure able to be seen from space is the Great Wall of China.

[IDemo]

12. What's Really Visible from Space

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/visible_from_space_031006.html

There is a longstanding myth that the Great Wall of China is the only manmade object visible from space. It and several variations on the theme are great fodder for water cooler arguments. In reality, many human constructs can be seen from Earth orbit.

Shuttle astronauts can see highways, airports, dams and even large vehicles from an Earth orbit that is about 135 miles (217 kilometers) high. Cities are clearly distinct from surrounding countryside, and that's true even from the higher perch of the International Space Station, which circles the planet at about 250 miles (400 kilometers) up.

"You can see an awful lot from space," says astronaut Ed Lu, the science officer of Expedition Seven aboard the station. "You can see the pyramids from space, especially with a pair of binoculars. They are a little difficult to pick out with just your eyes."

Egyptian pyramids have been photographed from space several times with standard digital cameras and high-powered lenses. The largest pyramid at Giza, on the outskirts of Cairo, is 745 feet (227 meters) wide and 449 feet (137 meters) tall.

"With binoculars you can see an awful lot of things," Lu wrote via e-mail in fielding a question from an Earthbound space fan. "You can see roads. You can see harbors. You can even see ships; very large tankers on the ocean we can see using the binoculars."

There are some surprises, too.

"You can see airplane contrails, and occasionally at the end of an airplane contrail, you will see a glint of sunlight off the airplane," Lu says. "And very occasionally, you do see other satellites go by. It is kind of a neat thing to see."

There are of course places in space from which you can't notice how humans have sculpted the planet. Apollo astronauts could not make out manmade features from the Moon, for example. And from Mars, Earth would appear to the naked eye as nothing but a bright "star" in the night sky.

So what about the Great Wall of China?

"You can see the Great Wall," Lu says. But it's less visible than a lot of other objects. And you have to know where to look.

[tom_paine]

13. Interesting and informative. Thanx.

n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. The myth...

was that you can see the Great Wall from the moon. Which is nonsense.

There's a big difference between 130 miles, and 250,000 miles.

[Raydawg1234]

9. I bet those reporters don't get out into the real world much

As far as the impeachment thing goes, sorry but that is very wishful thinking (aka never gonna happen)

[meldroc]

11. Not based on the bulldozer incident, but...

the Valerie Plame case has been heating up lately. There's some very incriminating evidence implicating Cheney, and there's a memo from Cheney that might even implicate Bush.

A few weeks ago, I would have rated the likelyhood of an impeachment at 15%. Now, I rate it at 40%. Not just because of Libby, but also because of popular demand - a large section of the public is demanding impeachment now. If more evidence piles up in the Libby case, or comes up from elsewhere, I'd say Congress may have no choice but to impeach

[MonkeyFunk]

10. No

it's a non-story.

And a court can't declare the President unable to perform, although this cabinet can.