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femmedem
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:25 PM Original message |
I'm a white woman who used to live with a black man (re: Biden) |
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Virginia Dare
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. Agreed...n/t |
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helderheid
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. I agree ... but your subject line made me think you were living with Biden and he was actually black |
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femmedem
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Oh no! I fixed it. Thanks. nt |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. Was he a credit to his race? |
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CatWoman
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. and was he "clean"? |
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rebel with a cause
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Fri Feb-02-07 02:54 AM Response to Reply #46 |
115. and one of the "good ones"? |
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Bluebear
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. Biden used to be black? |
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Patiod
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. Bingo - a black friend told me the same thing |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't have as big an issue with 'articulate' as I do with 'clean'. |
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sandnsea
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. dynamic, eloquent, expressive |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. LOL! I got 'chewed out' on DU after Obama's speech for calling him |
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sandnsea
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Along with dynamic and expressive?? |
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Solon
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. I don't see why you would have been dissed for that... |
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cherokeeprogressive
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. The first thing that came to my mind |
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JustABozoOnThisBus
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Fri Feb-02-07 08:12 AM Response to Reply #39 |
121. "He (or she) cleans up well" is derogatory? |
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cherokeeprogressive
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Fri Feb-02-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. While I might agree that it doesn't apply to Obama |
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Lex
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. I agree. To call a black person "articulate" makes me cringe. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
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Lex
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. "Too bad the blacks can't enjoy that compliment." |
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BlooInBloo
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
70. God I wish they wouldn't delete posts... If white folks were held to PUBLIC scrutiny... |
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liberalhistorian
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Thu Feb-01-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
108. Not only should such posts not be deleted, |
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FiveGoodMen
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. I agree that we shouldn't have a list of off-limits compliments. |
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Stuckinthebush
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. PC is very helpful |
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Bill McBlueState
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. i like that definition for pc |
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Stuckinthebush
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. I like it |
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sandnsea
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. It's always used with blacks - expresses shock and disbelief |
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Connie_Corleone
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Oh no! The Blacks!! |
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Buck Laser
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Can you say "condescending?" |
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Dora
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. You're articulate for a white American. |
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katsy
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. A compliment is: "nice suit you're wearing" or "love your tie". |
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MonkeyFunk
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yes |
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sandnsea
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. "and clean" |
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druidity33
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Thu Feb-01-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
85. politically clean... |
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sandnsea
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Why are you making shit up? |
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druidity33
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. sorry... |
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Karenina
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Thu Feb-01-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #91 |
103. Whose line? |
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JacksonWest
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Thu Feb-01-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
104. Um, he probably wouldn't describe Edwards as the "First African-American" anything...eh? |
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druidity33
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Thu Feb-01-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. i can argue |
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JacksonWest
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Fri Feb-02-07 07:19 AM Response to Reply #107 |
117. If you can argue-please start. |
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druidity33
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Fri Feb-02-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. see... there you go again... |
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JacksonWest
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Fri Feb-02-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Quoting Reagan. Not surprised..... |
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druidity33
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Fri Feb-02-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #122 |
125. yes |
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JacksonWest
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Fri Feb-02-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. "There you go again" is one of the most famous lines uttered during a presidential debate. |
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liberalhistorian
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Thu Feb-01-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #91 |
112. Why don't you try letting African-Americans decide |
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JacksonWest
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Fri Feb-02-07 07:24 AM Response to Reply #112 |
118. No. Racism is racism. It's not subjective. You don't need to be a certain race to interpret these |
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druidity33
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Fri Feb-02-07 07:34 AM Response to Reply #112 |
119. i call BS |
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Bombtrack
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hi, this is Sal Governale... |
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Marnieworld
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. LOL! |
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redqueen
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. It's so sad that this has to be explained. |
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Karenina
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Thu Feb-01-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
82. It's EVEN SADDER that when it IS EXPLAINED |
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redqueen
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Thu Feb-01-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Yeah, no kidding... |
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jgraz
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
15. "He seems very articulate." |
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Matariki
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
16. I absolutely agree |
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femmedem
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Bush didn't even know how to pronounce articulate |
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northzax
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
17. maybe the white men you were dating weren't all that articulate? |
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femmedem
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Most of the white boyfriends were extremely articulate. |
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Colobo
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
94. As a "foreign" black |
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femmedem
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Fri Feb-02-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #94 |
123. Welcome to DU! And I would agree |
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peacetalksforall
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. He could have referred to his scholarly knowledge of a subject and |
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Zodiak
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
21. Depends on how articulate |
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Nutmegger
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
24. Hi femmedem!!! |
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femmedem
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Good! And good to see you! |
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Starbucks Anarchist
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. I had a similar experience in jury duty. |
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Gormy Cuss
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
52. It happens with economic class too. |
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FrenchieCat
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
32. The odd thing is, there are so many articulate folks in the Black community |
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Beaverhausen
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
36. Maybe people use the word "articulate" in the way it is intended |
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K8-EEE
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
38. He Lost Me With The Bankruptcy Bill Anyhow. |
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The Count
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
40. Now that * chimed in there's no doubt left. |
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kiahzero
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
41. Is it possible he was more articulate than some of your other dates? |
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femmedem
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. A fair question, considering you never met him. |
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malaise
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
42. At best it's patronizing |
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CatWoman
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
45. Jackie Kennedy, upon meeting Coretta Scott King, marvelled |
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crispini
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
47. I sort of get this, but I sort of don't. |
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Beaverhausen
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I agree. I too would love to be called 'articulate' |
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femmedem
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. That is a good question. |
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crispini
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Haha, yes, context is everything. |
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nam78_two
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Heh yeah-context makes a huge difference. |
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Karenina
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. Hmmm.... Crispini, this shit is so subtle (not). Try these examples... |
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femmedem
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Wed Jan-31-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. That is horrible. |
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Karenina
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Really not. |
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sandnsea
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. "She's got such strong opinions" |
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crispini
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. ROFL. |
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BlooInBloo
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Thu Feb-01-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
110. In general, things are only worth saying when there's reason to believe to the contrary... |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. John Conyers ought to kick Biden's ass! |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
49. Biden's a JackAss. But I have heard people of all races described as "Articulate" |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
54. so compliments are racist? |
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Solon
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Are you being obtuse on purpose? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. you're not as ugLy as i thought you'd be |
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hfojvt
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I'm probably uglier |
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KurtNYC
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Fri Feb-02-07 12:48 AM Response to Reply #54 |
114. Just for reference... |
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leftofthedial
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
57. was he clean too? |
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MsKandice01
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Wed Jan-31-07 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
65. A HUGE pet peeve of mine... |
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femmedem
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I'm not sure what you mean. |
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MsKandice01
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Thu Feb-01-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. Yeah...it's the intent.. n/t |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
69. Yeah, it's like praising someone as "a sober and hardworking Irishman". |
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Nikki Stone1
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
71. Is "articulate" racist code? I use it all the time for truly articulate people. (Like Jim Webb) |
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Karenina
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Thu Feb-01-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #71 |
86. Yes, Nikki! "Articulate" is racist code. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
72. Even though I was appalled by his comments, I just now |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
73. Great post! |
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Rex
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
74. Fuck that, yeah he is articulate and so what? |
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Nikki Stone1
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Why are you picking on "articulate" when "clean" seems particularly nasty? |
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Rex
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I just found out about that in another thread. |
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Nikki Stone1
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Yeah. Depressing, isn't it. |
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Rex
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Yeah. |
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fujiyama
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
79. It shows a real cluelessness on his part |
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baldguy
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Thu Feb-01-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
81. "If anything has put to rest the myth of white supremacy, it the last 6 yrs under George Bush." |
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Thu Feb-01-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
83. I think articulate was a compliment and maybe he should have said clean cut... |
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jeffrey_X
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Thu Feb-01-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. that's not the point. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. I don't think he was intentionally being racist, however..... |
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. The most despised minority |
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Solon
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Thu Feb-01-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. Uhm, unless you are from Iran, that word doesn't describe your... |
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Karenina
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. I wish the American educational system |
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
95. here, have a listen |
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Az
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
92. Different baggage |
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Karenina
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Because whites HATE THE IDEA |
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Az
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. No I think it has more to do with intent |
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Karenina
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Az, those "deliberate intents" are often buried deep. |
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Az
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I understand what you are getting at |
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Karenina
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Thu Feb-01-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Az, I realize you don't mean to be patronizing |
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Az
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Fri Feb-02-07 06:57 AM Response to Reply #102 |
116. Not responsible |
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Oak2004
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Thu Feb-01-07 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
101. There are similar "code words" for the disabled: |
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BlooInBloo
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Thu Feb-01-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. I thought you were gonna say "independent". |
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The Traveler
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Thu Feb-01-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
105. Funny |
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Thu Feb-01-07 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
109. Good point! Yep - its racism. |
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BlooInBloo
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Thu Feb-01-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. No it's not hard to see in the least.... |
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Thu Feb-01-07 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
113. People who say things like that probably haven't really dealt with many black people. |
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Fri Feb-02-07 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
124. My highschool sweetheart was black, and I heard similar remarks. |
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