I will not compromise.

[JackDragna]

Over the last 30 years, I have seen those who hold my positions denigrated by those with opposing views as being something less than human. When I ask why we have so many poor, I am told the poor don't work hard enough and are not favored by God. When I ask why we fight so many wars, my patriotism is called into question. When I ask why we are sliding toward a police state that does not recognize Constitutional rights, I am told I am putting the public at risk. When I ask why gays should not enjoy the same rights as everyone else, I am told I am a bigot persecuting Christians.

I am driven by one inescapable conclusion, given my analysis of American politics over the last 30 years: there is a massive grab of wealth and power, being orchestrated by those who will literally take as much as they can and do whatever it takes to get more, even at their own eventual detriment. They will ruin society, starve the populace at large and drive people into privation and ruin. They have infiltrated both major political parties and bend their platforms to their agenda.

With all due respect to Mr. Stewart, I am not here to compromise. I am not here to listen to the other side, which has manipulated its pawns so the pawns think I am the Devil. I am tired of trying to reason with people who, as part of their core ideology, have abandoned reason and react with violent hostility to those who approach issues from an intellectual standpoint.

This is what class war looks like, Mr. Stewart. I am sure it makes you feel good, with your untold millions, to tell me I am unreasonable and should "compromise." Believing that the other side could consist of well-intentioned but misguided people has got us into the situation we're in. You, sir, are the enemy, and so is everyone who does not go to war for the tired, the oppressed and the downtrodden, whose rights have been crucified by the so-called "party of the people" for their own political gains.

No compromise. No discussion. No surrender. We didn't fire the first shot, but god dammit, we will not rest until we win.

[LawnLover]

1. An unwillingness to compromise

does no one any good. Society's are built on compromise. Get used to it.

[AlabamaLibrul]

2. Societies are built by great progressives and their ideals. Sorry you've been misled. n/t

[ddeclue]

11. OUTSTANDING ANSWER!

[pinboy3niner]

12. Not exactly

The Founders of our country devised a system of government that necessarily involves compromise.

Our current problem is that one side refuses to do so, and remains intransigent on every major issue.

Your objection seems to be directed at the idea that our side should cave even further in the face of that intransigence--and in that you're absolutely right.

It's not true compromise unless each side sacrifices some of its objectives in order to serve the common good. Ironically, it's the other side that is that is stubbornly committed to being the donkey here.

[WinkyDink]

36. AFTER a revolution, in case you've forgotten.

[pinboy3niner]

40. ???

I'm not sure what you mean. Our last revolution was more than a century ago.

I suspect we don't have a disagreement, but you have a point to make.

[kenny blankenship]

4. Are Republicans also part of this society, or are they just in charge of it?

They haven't submitted to what you claim is the Big Rule of compromise. Not a bit. And all that happens to them is that they are allowed to rule us by veto.

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[piratefish08]

19. and it is impossible to compromise with "No".

we've been used to that for almost 2 years.

[bullwinkle428]

31. How do we compromise with the Republicans on the impeachment of Pres. Obama?

[WinkyDink]

34. Revolutions are not. (Plurals don't take apostrophes.)

[kick-ass-bob]

45. With whom are we supposed to be compromising?

The right who is moving farther right? The ones that can only seem to say "no" to everything?

Please enlighten me as to who this partner of compromise should be.

[babylonsister]

3. Nice rant, but Stewart is NOT the enemy. Think about our

flawed political system; he's trying to work within the confines of what we now have, not what we want or desire. So is the Prez. Reality sucks, doesn't it, but that's what we have now.

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[babylonsister]

7. Oh please. I agree with some of the issues you have,

but who is better suited to stop everything at this point in time? Obama had to fix a lot of things to get to this point. If you don't recognize that, and want immediate fixes for all your ills, who would/could be a better leader to get all you want accomplished?

Rant all you want; I'm glad President Obama is on our side, and we're not looking at a prez palin or romney.

[JackDragna]

48. You mean the same president..

..who continues torture? Who gives billions to corporations? Who did nothing to punish BP during the oil spill? Who lets the massive crimes of the previous administration go unpunished?

[Incognitus Czar]

6. oh boy...

NO compromise? Really, I'm pretty sure EVERY politician in existance has compromised on something in order to make a deal or pass something. Otherwise shit wouldn't get done or passed.
Either you'd have to be VERY powerful or persuasive in order to not compromise at all in your dealings.

[mudplanet]

8. Right fucking on. No compromise on human rights, on civil liberites, on

rejection of racism.

I can compromise with people that have reasonable positions and some facts to back them up, but not with compulsive liars, people who enable wholesale murder, sadists (people that torture people do it because they like to do it, not out of necessity), and racists. It's a losing proposition.

[csziggy]

9. Correct. Liberals have been compromising for 30+ years

We've lost ground on so many issues that were already settled law. Just ten years ago even most conservatives would have raised hell about the Americans United court decision. Now, only the most "radical" liberals are making noise about it.

Torture has been condoned by Democratic politicians. Civil rights are taken away by popular vote. Billions of dollars are stolen and no one is even investigated, much less prosecuted - I am thinking of multiple places where billions were stolen or "lost - the Pentagon, Wall Street, Medicare and insurance fraud, the mortgage scam, the list goes on and on and on. Our planet is poisoned and we are lied to about it.

It is time to draw a line and say, "Beyond this point, no compromise."

[butterfly77]

35. +1

:kick:

[RandomThoughts]

10. He may not have been telling you to compermise in my view,

He may have been saying we already do compromise, and those that do not are those that are the issues. And those that do not report within perspectives.

He was talking about perspective about what is said in the media also.

I am driven by one inescapable conclusion, given my analysis of American politics over the last 30 years: there is a massive grab of wealth and power, being orchestrated by those who will literally take as much as they can and do whatever it takes to get more, even at their own eventual detriment. They will ruin society, starve the populace at large and drive people into privation and ruin. They have infiltrated both major political parties and bend their platforms to their agenda. <-- does the person you speak of compromise?

You are thinking about conditions, are there other perspectives? He might be asking the Republican politicians to compromise, and many that set programming schedules to compromise and think and feel to get things done.

The mind reacts to what it sees as if it happens in front of them. So if you see on TV an article about a shark attack, you might not swim, even if it was half way around the world. That is lack of perspective, and lack of thought.


Half a million people have watched this speech on YouTube so far, if every one of them learns what it says, and thinks about it, they can make a difference.

Jon Stewart's speech at the Rally For Sanity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXmbzLI3pnk

He can not control what you think it was about. Only you can do that.

[Hannah Bell]

13. we've been compromising for nearly 40 years & it's gotten us lower wages,

poorer working conditions, the return of sweatshops & slave labor, massive job losses, the decline of US manufacturing, an income distribution on a par with 1929 or the robber baron era, life expectancy on a par with albania & the number of uninsured growing year by year, 20% un or underemployment, AND THE CLASS WAR IS INTENSIFYING.

A two-front war, a privatized military, a shitty privatized air travel industry, shitty privatized tv service ("pay-for-trash, pay-for-hour-length-commercials"), orwellian surveillance, one out of 9 black men in prison or on parole, 7% unionization & declining, 10% of the population on tranquilizers, privatized pay-to-play "education" on the way --

no, these are not times for compromise; what you're compromising with is fascism.

[Vinca]

20. Exactly right, Hannah Bell.

The Republicans are the ones who need to learn the art of compromise.

[butterfly77]

39. +1

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[Scruffy1]

16. Well put

There are some issues where no compromise is possible. Half of a war is still a war. To the affluent like these two wealthy comedians poverty is no problem. Our politics is starting to look more and more like Pro Wrestling. The whole thing is about getting us to settle for less, with the tea party running flak around the end.

[sweetapogee]

42. If you ask me

the time and effort spent in DC trying to restore sanity would have been better spent protesting the half war as you call it. It's called focus and we, sorry to say are out of it.

Peace

[maryf]

17. K&R

thanks!

[stray cat]

18. So what have you accomplished?

[sweetapogee]

I will take it

one step further and ask the question "what do we do about it?" Win elections? Right now, as we speak we own the Executive and Legislative branch of the federal government.

[Odin2005]

21. Compromise does not work if the other side is out of touch with reality.

Compromise requires that both sides are reasonable and willing to give-and-take.

[rainlillie]

24. I agree.

[rainlillie]

22. OMG! I just posted something very similar to this. Great post!

[rainlillie]

23. I highly recommend this post! Excellent! Excellent! What I needed to hear.

[MilesColtrane]

25. You

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26. seem

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27. to

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28. be

[MilesColtrane]

29. stuttering.

[rainlillie]

33. Really? Is that all you got? This post is a thing of beauty.

[WinkyDink]

37. I don't get it.

[butterfly77]

30. Kicked&Recommended!

:kick:

[Poboy]

32. K&R

[elocs]

38. Now how did we all feel about Bushco's "My Way or the Highway" attitude?

The reality is that our society does need compromise to actually accomplish things. Compromise should first be attempted in small things because if one side will not compromise on small things they surely will not compromise of bigger and more important things.

To compromise does not mean you give away all of your points or positions or play the fool. But unless your hand is extremely strong and "all or nothing" attitude usually nets you nothing. True compromise is not surrender and it is foolish to think that.

I support smart compromise and am willing to give up something important to gain something else equally important rather than get nothing at all. Tomorrow is another day and another opportunity to fight for what was not gained at first, but at least we would be closer to the goal.

[JackDragna]

47. I will not compromise on issues that dehumanize.

We have already ceded too much ground. I will not compromise on slaughter, on making people poor and on removing civil rights. This is not a negotiation about whether we should build a bridge somewhere - this is about the basic human decency manifest in our government.

[mstinamotorcity]

41. To Compromise

With whom,with what,are we to compromise with????The monetary powers that be do not want compromise. They want total surrender.We are a strong innovative and creative thinking society in a lot of areas. But the areas we are not affect us on a daily basis that causes harmful results that eventually hurt us all with time. Then the time it takes to recover from the destruction is time lost and wasted because of greed. Look anytime you have a person or persons who get together to spend billions of dollars in campaign ads instead of feeding the hungry or providing shelter to the homeless or maybe having a heart and give the people back all the homes they stole,its fucking sick. Compromise for who. I don't get it we are supposed to compromise with the very people who robbed this country blind so that they can keep doing it???? It does not seem smart. Its an insult on America's intelligence. We do not begrudge rich people their riches. We just believe we should not pay for it with the sacrifices of our livelihoods,respect,human dignity,and blood of our children in fucked up wars. Sorry. I love my fellow man and country too much to be a voice that is quiet while so many of my sisters and brothers are systematically being booted out of the dynamics of life, do to an increasing poverty. So to those of you who do not agree,oh well. But ask yourself just who are you compromising with???? Is it someone who is reasonable with some of your best interest at heart or theirs???

[TBF]

43. Solidarity, friend, I stand with you. nt

[HughMoran]

44. Sounds like the beginnings of Civil War II

Not that your voice is either unusual or out-of-line here - I'm not for compromising with hate-filled ignoramuses either. The solution is not pretty, however.