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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:57 PM
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Big Ed and Keith need to get over Jon Stewarts comments. . .
. . .cable TV sucks and while both Ed and Keith are two of the best in that medium, the medium sucks and there are part of it.

You will notice Rachel and Lawrence O'Donnell loved it, I think the main reason is they don't take themselves as seriously as Schultz and Olbermann.

I'm listening to Ed spending well over 55 minutes on it the day before the most important midterms in history. We on the left and the talking heads we support need to be able to take criticism, especially when that criticism comes from someone on their side on most of the issues.

Also, those who love all three please do not feel like you have to choose sides, at the end of the day they are all fighting for the same thing.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:59 PM
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1. Generally, you have to be in love with yourself to talk for an entire show...
Personally, I don't think I could do it for more than five minutes and that might be a stretch.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:07 PM
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9. Ed patterned his radio show after the Master Narcissist himself, Rush Limpballs
Rush will talk glowingly of himself and his privileged life for three hours. Ed is often guilty of the same thing.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 11:48 PM
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18. I've listened to a lot of ED
You obviously don't know what you are talking about
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 11:59 PM
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20. Yes, actually I do. I heard him for years when he was just on in the
Dakotas. He was doing Rush's schtick, from a liberal perspective.

Anybody who doesn't realize that isn't paying attention.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 12:04 AM
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21. No I wasn't paying attention to ED back in the day
I know now he fights for we the little guys like NOBODY else. And your kind don't like anyone fighting for us.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 01:19 AM
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23. He can "fight" (talk) for all the "little guys" he wants to.
I'm just saying the man loves talking about himself every bit as much as he likes the little guy.

"Your kind." Good grief.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 01:26 AM
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25. That I know for a fact is NOT true.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:59 PM
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2. Indeed. K&R
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:03 PM
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3. I disagree, Jon deserved to be called out.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:03 PM
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4. Olbermann must've tweeted about it for a fucking hour
All I could think of was, "get over it."
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cdsilv Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:06 PM
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7. "If you amplify everything, you hear nothing".
While I agree Keith is more objective than beck, limpballs, etc.. he is certainly no Ed Murrow. "Worst person in World"?????
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:18 PM
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11. You mean we can't hear what Beck and company really have to say? That they have valid and
Edited on Mon Nov-01-10 01:20 PM by Better Believe It

important political points to make but we have failed to understand them because of our yelling?

Right.

"If you amplify everything, you hear nothing".

Well, it was a nice sounding and catchy saying .... without substance.

Here's some more golden nuggets of wisdom.

If you turn up the volume, it will sound louder!

If you don't talk, they will not hear you!

The future lies ahead!

Bullets come out of the barrel of a gun!
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:24 PM
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14. LOL!! Considering he wins Murrow Awards, your statement is funny!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:05 PM
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5. Yes, 'get over it' is always the message to those who stand for the left. nt
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:32 PM
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17. Just like "Suck it UP" is only meant for the working/middle/poor classes, never for the wealthy.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 11:49 PM
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19. +1000
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:06 PM
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6. A hit dog barks.
The sad thing is that so many on here seem to have a vested interest in outrage that they are completely missing the point of the Rally.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:07 PM
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8. I'm not listening (I'm at work), but I can see how Ed & KO would feel
Edited on Mon Nov-01-10 01:08 PM by stopbush
ill used by having themselves lumped in with the Limbaughs of the world. After all, I didn't see Limbaugh out there putting together free health clinics as did KO & Ed. I've never heard a RWer apologize for outlandish lies they spew, while both Ed & KO will issue a mea culpa if they get something factually wrong, or if they mis-characterize something.

There are differences, and they're not subtle differences.

On the other hand, Stewart does march to his own drummer, and KO and Ed are both obvious partisans. All this dust up means is that Stewart will miss out on some free positive play from Ed & KO while Stewart's audience will be treated to footage that proves Jon's point.

Jon Stewart would feel ill used were he lumped in with Limbaugh, or even KO, for that matter. Yet one could just as easily do so. After all, they're all big media stars in the political wars, aren't they?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:07 PM
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10. Why can't we all just get along, love our enemies and be civil toward them?

Maybe give them some cookies and milk! That would be a nice gesture.

Don't Ed and Keith get it?

I hope not.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:29 PM
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15. Amen.
Extending the hand of friendship to the right gets you a bloody stump.
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:22 PM
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12. IMO Ed and Keith are responses to the right wing crazies.
They did not originate this stuff.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:23 PM
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13. Keith couldn't even be bothered to be live last night
Like everyone else.....
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:32 PM
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16. Rachel and Lawrence weren't included in the montage, were they?
I'm referring to the montage where Stewart blasted TV talking heads, showing pictures of KO and Big Ed interspersed with Beck and O'Reilly. I didn't see Rachel and Lawrence in there. I'm guessing they'd feel differently if they were

It was wrong of Stewart to suggest that the guys on the left are equally noxious as those on the right. Clearly, Stewart was intent on bending over backwards to be unbiased and treat both sides equally. However, it is simply unfair to paint both sides with the same brush when one side (the Right) is guilty of lies and fear-mongering and the other side (the Left) is not.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 12:13 AM
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22. he didn't include Rachel and Lawrence in his criticisms
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 01:22 AM
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24. I'm not sure what Ed or Keith is doing
because I don't have a cable so I may be dead wrong.

But shouldn't they respond to criticism and not only take it?
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