Had to turn off Ed -- he's sounding like Limbaugh shredding

[gateley]

Jon Stewart. It's making me angry. Taking his words out of context, saying Stewart is blaming cable news for the problems in America, pure crap. Ed's doing just what Stewart said, and what Limbaugh does, perpetuates the SCANDALS and takes everything out of context.

See ya, Ed -- you've done a lot of good and will continue to do so, but you're behaving like some egomanic whose feelings were hurt.

[Ian David]

1. Same here. Ed was being a douchebag. n/t

[wndycty]

2. Plus 1,000,000

:kick:

[xultar]

3. [phone] gazillion brazillion trillion billion million trillion cicillion hillion

[bushisanidiot]

4. I can't stand Ed. He rails on President Obama just as much as he does the Tea Party.

.

[Erose999]

6. Why can't "the left" be critical of their own? nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Stewart must have hit a nerve.

I usually like Ed pretty much, but all of the cable talking heads might want to sit back and think about what Stewart was trying to say -- which was not that cable TV is responsible for all the problems, but that sometimes it amplifies differences beyond reasonable discourse. A TV show is more interesting if there's a lot of partisan ranting and name-calling, and sometimes a little righteous anger is appropriate, but what we really need is reason and facts. That's why Rachel Maddow didn't make it into the montage. She's reasonable and calm and she presents facts without polemics. We need guys like Ed and Olbermann, too -- and I don't think Stewart was presenting a false equivalence, since his montage featured about 90% right-wingers -- but sometimes we could use less heat and more light.

[tsuki]

7. No, he is not. He is attacking the false equivalency BS. Ed Schultz

is not a Glenn Beck equivalent.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. And Stewart never said he was.

He was included in a montage of people making intense or even insulting statements. Stewart's point was that the cable news talking heads do a lot of that, and he included clips of Ed Schultz and Keith Olbermann. Because they do, in fact, use heated rhetoric sometimes. But the montage consisted of about 90% right-wingers. So the point could be made not that KO and Ed are "the same" as Glenn Beck (and I sincerely doubt that Stewart thinks that at all), but quite the opposite -- that 90% of the heated rhetoric is coming from the right.

[AlinPA]

28. I agree that was a false equivalency, but overall cable "news" is a cesspool of

screaming dogs thinking they are journalists. There are only a few people who might fit the descripton of "journalist". The same goes for network and local "news".

[LostInAnomie]

8. He's probably hoping if he whines enough Jon will have him on his show.

[Ozymanithrax]

9. Our nation has gone through a system of hyper polarization and the media..

perpetuates that process. The result is a government incapable of compromising to find solutions that benefit it's citizens.

Jon Stewart, by pointing out the complicity of the media on both sides, has offended people for the wrong reason.

We should be asking why isn't the media informing Americans and pushing the government to compromise for the benefit of it's citizens. It is not the relative fact content or the truthiness factor between Fox on the right and MSNBC on the left but the result of the way the media acts.

Predictably, many on the left have been deeply offended, and if we don't join in that offense, we are labeled members of the right.

The Media is broken, and that includes NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, CNN, and MSNBC. It serves a demographic to keep eyes on screen instead of pushing peoples voices to demand solutions.

[flamingdem]

10. I think the result is a REPUBLICAN PARTY that refuses to contribute to solutions

Show me otherwise.

[Skidmore]

19. K&R for your response.

The left right now is not one whit better than the right. We cannot expect this nation to survive such sharp divisions and polarized opinions in the absence of discourse. This nation is being shredded, ripped to pieces from the inside out.

[JuniperLea]

11. This is really awesome!!!

Jon must have hit a massive nerve.

Good job!

I don't give a flying rat's ass what this blowhard says... he played right into Stewart's hands... as if to illustrate a point.

Good.

[Kber]

13. Sorry to hear that.

I specifically remember Jon Stewart saying that Cable News did not cause our problems. But that it does create an environment that makes our problems harder to solve.

I think I agree with that analysis.

I like Ed and Keith OK, and honestly when Keith really started gearing up he was like the Fox antidote. But I prefer Rachel. While Keith goes for red-faced anger, Rachel goes for the sarcastic lighter touch, which matches my personality more.

To each his own, I guess.

[otohara]

14. He Who Calls Christie in N.J. "a fat slob"

doesn't help matters and I've heard him scream at callers to the point where I've turned him off.

[CatWoman]

16. you feel the same way when Jon refers to people as

"douches"?

[otohara]

23. I've Never Had to Run For the Remote

during The Daily Show.

Jon Stewart doesn't scream at people and since he is a "real" comedian, calling people douches is fine with me, he's an equal opportunity name caller.

Wow, DU has amnesia and a denial problem.

[EFerrari]

15. If I were Ed and had been compared to the likes of Beck

I would be pissed as hell. That's not egomania, that's just good boundaries.

And it is pretty funny for Jon to finger cable as if his show could survive without cable.

[Bluenorthwest]

30. Jon is on Comedy Central. Cable' news' is the issue being

talked about, not the Cartoon Network and Paula Deen. Cartman is not part of the problem, he's part of the solution!

[EFerrari]

31. If someone offered Stewart a show on MSNBC or CNN

he'd take it in a heartbeat.

[rocktivity]

17. Loyalty to an employer ablove and beyond the call of duty?

Stewart isn't blaming cable news for the problems in America. Stewart is blaming cable news for the problems in cable news.

Was an Ed Show clip was featured at the rally?

:crazy:
rocktivity

[nolabear]

18. He's making Stewart's point for him by responding to a point Stewart didn't make.

Because that gins up emotion and emotion keeps 'em coming back for more. Stewart is absolutely right. Everyone does it. I'm sick of it, myself.

[pgodbold]

20. Ed is a douche bag but he gives good liberal. nt

[walldude]

26. LMFAO.. are you serious?

Ed was a conservative. Still is. His faux liberal schtick is laughable. I don't follow him anymore, his joke of an interview with Lieberman after Holy Joe threw in with McCain was a disgusting piece of ass kissing and was the last time I ever tuned into that guy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. this is what Jon did and Ed missed

or was too personal, I don't know... (So did Keith by the way)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9435650

[CBR]

22. The truth hurts Ed... nt

[DeschutesRiver]

24. I won't be watching Ed any more; just as I no longer watch Chris Matthews. nt

[Duckhunter935]

25. I like how he said

He did not watch the rally. I did Eds wrong on this one

[OneGrassRoot]

27. Wow, Jon REALLY hit a nerve with all the media!

It seems many shows and pundits weighed in on the matter -- the responsibility of media in today's political discourse -- today.

Them discussing their role and their responsibility -- even if it's whining or being offended -- is a huge accomplishment in and of itself.

The 24/7 corporate-owned media is tremendously harmful in different ways, IMHO. Jon pulled opened a door to discussion. Good for him.

:)

[letterwriter]

29. Agreed

Ed is just over the top. Even though I generally agree with him he's so biased that he is an embarrassment.

[sally cat]

32. So tell me, why wasn't all this sage wisdom about the media not said before Saturday, and yet now

it's all conventional wisdom y'know with our glitterati and intelligensia. And don't insult me and say it has been said all along, or I'll be forced to actually work a little and search for confirmatory posts.

[ramapo]

33. Ed sounded like Rush of the left

When Ed first came to WWRL in NYC, I was disappointed as he replaced Thom Hartmann. Ed sounded so much like Rush that I found it disturbing. But I gave him a chance and he grew on me. He was great through the whole health care fiasco but lately has been just a bit much. I did not hear him today but I will side with Stewart on this one.