Disappointed gays unlikely to shun Democrats

[FreeState]

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69T19320101101

(Reuters) - Gay voters, disappointed with President Barack Obama's failure to do away with a ban on gays in the military, have pared back funding for Democrats in the midterm elections but are unlikely to abandon them at the polls on Tuesday.

One of the most vocal and affluent groups of the Democratic base, gay voters say they have received nothing in return for decades of loyalty to the party, even after two years of Democratic leadership in both the White House and Congress.

"We voted for Democrats. We gave them the House and the Senate, and what did we get?" said John Aravosis, editor of the left-leaning blog AMERICAblog.

Disillusionment in the gay community with both Obama and his party is palpable. Obama, who received strong support from gays in his 2008 election, says he supports ending the ban on gays openly serving in the military. But his administration is now challenging attempts by a federal judge to impose an end to the ban, saying it is up to Congress, not the courts.

[jobycom]

1. It's the choice between voting for someone who doesn't respect you or someone who wants you dead.

Some choice.

[Prism]

2. I'm sure we'll be blamed somehow

It happens with boring regularity. You can already see the ramping up for it.

But hey, reasonable people can disagree about whether or not the queers cost us.

[FreeState]

6. Agree

It happened in 2004 and Im sure we will be blamed again, although this time it will be harder because its a little hard to blame losses on GLBT voters in districts were GLBT voters are few to begin with. But Im sure those speaking from heterosexual privilege will be along soon to straighten us out.

[donco6]

19. Without question.

I'll be out most of the night tomorrow, and it's probably a good thing.

[QC]

21. It's an old and cherished DU tradition. n/t

[queerart]

3. So What Are They Going To Do?

Vote Republican (arr, arr, arr, chortle, guffaw, snort, finger poke to your eye, now give us your vote, & money ... and then STFU Queer)

[chidy]

11. it just never occurs to some people

the problem with a weak Dem party is that it creates the space for other parties to develop. can no one remember that in most places, a strict duopoly is not really what is on the ballot? if dems want to retain their position as an automatically eminent party, always holding great power and with the ability to independently operate, they have to, well, succor the actual base. which is *not:* banksters, or warmongers, Big Pharma or Oil, or foreign rich people. thugs do that far better than any dems ever will, as is being proven right now. otoh, dems are supposed to represent: the poor, the minorities, women, gays, peace lovers and freethinkers. when they can't do that? historically, they lose. when they do, they win, b/c there are only about ~1M uber rich people who need to go, and the rest of us can then move on to getting along peacefully, fixing the environment, tolerance and justice, economic opportunity and fairness, etc. these are facts, and history, not opinion. i was fascinated by some german and brazilian news i read recently, where people were unabashedly unashamed to say, "well. we did what made sense. it worked and things are better now." here in america, we argue over which side of the stage in front of two powerless TV personalities advancing themselves in the Village at the expense of real social activism we wish to stand.

[queerart]

12. What I Love.....

Is the threat used that "Republicans Will Put You On The Gallows" argument to keep the Queers scared, and in line.....


I am reminded when "Gay Marriage" came into effect with no help from the Whitehouse... and that was 2004 in Massachusetts....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Massachusetts


and who was in office?.... damn it, I hate it when I can't remember things........


Oh, that's right.... George W. Bush.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush


Gay Rights moved faster under a Republican Whitehouse (with the courts of course).....


Facts tend to piss off the crowd that want to control the Queers :-)

[sally cat]

4. Yoda says "taken for granted they are."

[gatorboy]

10. Another Yoda saying, "If Republicans get power, taken to the gallows they will."

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[xchrom]

8. Quelle surprise. Nt

[walldude]

9. oops.. edited for misundrestimating the OP...

What I should have said was well now who are the Dems going to blame if they lose?

[LonePirate]

13. Well said! Obama and Kaine's lack of support for equality is disgusting.

LGBT voters simply are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

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[stray cat]

15. Intelligence reigns!

[K8-EEE]

17. Bill Maher said not voting for Dems because they aren't liberal enough

and letting the GOP take over is like saying "I hate my cell phone, I know, I'll brush my teeth with shit!"

[Historic NY]

18. yup

[southmost]

20. unrec

I'm tired of being relegated as a vapid voter tied to a single issue, these stories are stereotypical nonsense

[ruggerson]

22. And in other news, Generalissimo Franco is still dead

n/t

[QC]

23. Has anyone else ever noticed that LGBT-related threads around here

are always full of personal attacks and deleted posts?

[jonnyblitz]

24. they're ginning up the race card a bit as well. I learned we gays

are more concerned about "going after" Obama because he is black than we are about our rights.

[QC]

26. One learns some fascinating things around here.

I bet I know who told you that, by the way.

[xchrom]

27. yes we are considered to be racist by some --

just like i suspect most see us as affluent white males{and therefore icky} instead of the rainbow, gender diversified we are in reality.

very, very peculiar the way we are viewed.

[ScreamingMeemie]

28. Yes. And it makes me want to vomit.

The condescension and, dare I say it, outright hatred is sick. The fact that posts only get deleted and the vitriolic posters are allowed to remain makes it all the more disgusting.

[jonnyblitz]

25. I don't blame the whole DEM party for the Obama admin.

Anybody I can't fucking stand isn't up for election this year.

[terrya]

29. How in the hell can there be a deleted sub thread

In a story about gay people voting for the Democrats?

[QC]

30. Maybe we're not clapping loudly enough while voting for the Democrats. n/t

[Unvanguard]

31. The article's basic message is almost certainly correct.

However, better social science research has debunked the notion that gays are particularly more "affluent" than other groups--not that that stops the Religious Right from shouting it from the rooftops as a way to suggest, ludicrously, that gays are not actually discriminated against after all.