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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:26 PM
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Did Fitzgerald know about Rove's connection to Abrahmhoff
and the RNC emails that Ralston had?

Ralston served as executive assistant in the White House to Karl Rove until September 2006. From 1998 to 2001, she had also worked for Abramoff, who was convicted of a variety of crimes in federal court in January 2006. The Committee noted that Ralston "appeared voluntarily and testified on a number of subjects unrelated to the Abramoff matter," in the May 10 deposition.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Former_Rove_aide_pleads_Fifth_on_0522.html

I'm just fascinated at how Fitzgerald had full power to see the Rove emails and he knew that Ralston worked for Abrahmhoff who was under investigation ... Did he have Ralston testify at the Plame case? My memory is fuzzy help me out here?

So Rove is connected with the RNC emails
and Ralston is connected to Abrahmhoff

just would like to hear but probably never will if Fitzgerald ever ran across anything touching this in his investigation of the Plame case...he was given the power to look

It just is fascinating to see Rove still in the whitehouse playing away and smiling

I wonder if Fitzgerald can be subpoened by Waxman on this issue ....or is it like Ghostbusters don't cross the streams or the world will blow up :nuke:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:28 PM
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1. Fitzgerald did his (repuke) job
he covered all the repuke leaders' asses and nailed a flunky fall guy for a minor offense

mission accomplished
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:33 PM
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2. He was given "all the authority of the Attorney General"
Edited on Tue May-22-07 09:39 PM by lovuian
On December 30, 2003, Fitzgerald was appointed Special Counsel (under Department of Justice regulation 28 CFR Part 600) in the Plame investigation. Through this, Fitzgerald was delegated "all the authority of the Attorney General" in the matter. In February 2004, Acting Attorney General Comey clarified the delegated authority and stated that Fitzgerald has plenary authority. Comey also wrote "further, my conferral on you of the title of 'Special Counsel' in this matter should not be misunderstood to suggest that your position and authorities are defined and limited by 28 CFR Part 600."<10>

I'm just wondering did he use the power that was given him
if he did then he was limited in his power

but if he didn't
then why didn't he?

because Waxman is really showing that a very bad man is left in the whitehouse and all the evidence was at Fitzgerald's fingertips

Fitz knew the Justice Department was investigating him

Abramoff pled guilty on January 3, 2006, to three criminal felony counts in a Washington, D.C., federal court related to the defrauding of American Indian tribes and corruption of public officials.<1> The following day, on January 4, he pled guilty to two criminal felony counts in a separate federal court, in Miami, related to his fraudulent dealings with SunCruz Casinos.<2>

On March 29, 2006, he was sentenced to five years and 10 months in prison and ordered to pay restitution of more than $21 million. His prison sentence was the minimum permitted under a plea bargain with federal prosecutors, in part because of his purported cooperation in the federal investigation and also because over 100 influential political allies—some very recognizable names in American public policy—wrote the sentencing judge on Abramoff's behalf, urging leniency. In October 2006, over six months after his sentencing, he was ordered by a federal judge to report to federal prison by November 15, 2006.

And one wonders that Fitz had the log books which showed Abrahmhoff going to the whitehouse often???

Its just amazing how in two big investigations that Rove was connected the Justice Department could never nab him
Dang Rove is good
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:41 PM
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3. this whole thing is a circus
played out by actors and designed to distract us from the unprecedented crimes being committed every day, 24X7.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:42 PM
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4. This is where I bet when Libby's trial is at the end
and he serves prison time

then Fitz can say if he happened to see logbboks or emails that Dirty Jack was playing with the Brain but he couldn't catch him cause sand was thrown in his eyes
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:48 PM
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5. Alice Fisher might know if Rove played with Jack
"The corruption scheme with Mr. Abramoff is very extensive," Alice S. Fisher, head of the Justice Department's criminal division, said at a January 2006 news conference. But she refused to name all of the Abramoff associates under current investigation. "We name people in indictments," she said

Rove slipped past her too

Dang Rove just gets to walk around this big cases of Murder Fraud and Spy outings with a hands off power

He is the Brain

But then Rove has the power to fire attorneys just hand the Justice Department a list and Sampson made it so

What incredible Power Rove has
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:52 PM
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6. Lets take a look at Alice
Alice S. Fisher was appointed<1> by President George W. Bush in a recess appointment August 31, 2005, as Assistant Attorney General to head the Criminal Division in the United States Department of Justice.

Fisher was nominated March 29, 2005, and her nomination was sent to the Senate April 4, 2005. Her nomination was stalled over interrogation tactics at the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, naval facility. She was confirmed by the senate on September 19, 2006.<2>

Fisher "had a substantive law firm career, and she worked for two years in the Criminal Division overseeing the Department’s prosecutions in the high-profile areas of counterterrorism and corporate fraud. She also been a long-time protégé of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff," Vermont Senator Patrick J. Leahy said<3> in his May 12, 2005, statement. "I am somewhat concerned, however, that Ms. Fisher is nominated for one of the most visible prosecutorial positions in the country without ever having prosecuted a case, and she brings to the position minimal trial experience in any context," he said

Did you know Alice had connections to Tom Delays defense team?

Leahy was also concerned about "reports that she has had ties to Congressman Tom DeLay’s defense team" and "also to know what steps she to take to avoid a conflict of interest in the Department’s investigation of lobbyist Jack Abramoff and possibly Mr. DeLay."

and she was investigating Abrahmhoff's case no wonder Rove got off and Susan
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:58 PM
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7. lets look at "plenary authority" what does that mean
In United States constitutional law, plenary power is a power that has been granted to a body in absolute terms, with no limitations on how that body may use the power. The assignment of a plenary power to one body divests all other bodies from the right to exercise that power.

A clear example of this is with the power of the United States Congress under the Article I, Section 8, Clause 3, (the Commerce Clause). Because Congress is granted absolute power over interstate commerce, the Supreme Court has found that states may not pass laws that affect interstate commerce - unless the U.S. Congress gives them permission to do so.


Fitzgerald was granted "plenary authority"

with no limitations on how that body may use the power.

the question is did Fitzgerald use the power that was given him to discover the criminals in the whitehouse
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