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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:54 PM
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Grayson threw his seat away the moment he aired the Taliban Dan ad.
I have no sympathy for him.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:54 PM
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stevenelijah Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:57 PM
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it did not help
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:59 PM
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13. LOL. I know. It's not like the Teabaggers spent a ton of money to knock him out or anything
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:57 PM
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2. Yes, thank you, Cassandra. nt
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:57 PM
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3. Tonight is not the night, LLStarks.
As much as we liked him, Grayson was hated with a passion by right-wingers & teabaggers. I doubt he ever had a chance.
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:59 PM
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12. Right night or not, he became too crazy to be my hero. I'll stick with Anthony Weiner here in NY. nt
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:14 PM
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36. He isn't "crazy." He is honest and speaks the truth about the
insanity on the other side, instead of using weasel words and cringing when they tell lies and commit fraud.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:59 PM
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15. His original win was probably a fluke
I wanted to believe it was because of changing demographics that he won in the first place. But the reality turns out to be that his original opponent, Rick Keller, went down because he broke too many promises. Now they got the guy they wanted.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:57 PM
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4. He was one of the MAJOR targets of Big Money. He was buried from the outside. nt
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:47 PM
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37. Absolutely. And they know how to make a truthful but tough ad seem like an unfair slur
and milk it for all the emotional power that resentment of a smear can have. Professional PR knows how to get emotion to rule over reason and the truth.

Jack Conway is many degrees smarter and more experienced than Rand Paul, but the right wing PR machinery made the election about that Oh So Awful Conway ad criticizing Rand Paul's religion!

Millions of right wing PR dollars at work!

Thanks to all of us allowing the Supreme Court to appoint GW Bush who appointed activist right wing judges to our supreme court.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:58 PM
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5. Can you save it for another night please? n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:58 PM
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6. The fucking MSM turned that totally corect ad into a "Dean Scream".
unrec!
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:52 PM
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35. I just got back into the country...
... and had to google it. Holy crap...

This is one of those things that probably sounded good in his head... and then reality hit. Damn that was just stupid.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:58 PM
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7. thanks so much for the advice
not

:thumbsdown:
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:58 PM
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8. Flame-bait much? lol n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:58 PM
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9. It's our loss - the country's. nt
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:59 PM
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10. What was the order d'jour?
If you want to engage in grave-dancing, GO AWAY. Or something quite similar.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:00 PM
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18. Yep.
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 08:01 PM by laughingliberal
Far Away.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:59 PM
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 07:59 PM
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14. I disagree
the ad helped me learn about his opponent which I knew nothing about. I think it is because he was outspent by so much. More than any Democratic opponent IIRC.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:00 PM
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17. He was never going to win, for several reasons.
Good to know that you turn on one of the few solid left voices when he does something you don't like, though.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:01 PM
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19. n/t
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 08:02 PM by cynatnite
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:01 PM
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20. Alerted....
He's a member of DU for one... So, this is a personal attack.
He's widely regarded for two... So, it is sure to stir up problems.
He's a Democrat... Need I say more?

Hoping for a lock of this shit thread.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:03 PM
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23. It's not an attack. It's the OP's opinion. n/t
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:03 PM
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24. Me too. nt
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:04 PM
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27. So, we can have a thread to honor him, but not one to criticize him? nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:52 PM
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39. Is it okay to hold your gravedancing until the funeral is over?
Or is that too much for your precious self to manage?
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:02 PM
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21. Wrong. That district is heavily GOP.
And GOP campaigned hard against him $$$$.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:02 PM
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22. wait till you see webster do exactly like the ad said - then people might, just might notice
grayson was right
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:03 PM
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25. Oh for fuck sakes. Breathe into a paper bag.
He lost because millions in ads were bombed on him late in the campaign.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:04 PM
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:04 PM
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28. ----Do not reply. Let it die.-----
Sorry to OP, but let's wait until the body cools before we hack it up to see what's wrong.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:05 PM
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:13 PM
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30. gosh i hope people aren't going to expect the republican to stand up for them when their homes get
illegally foreclosed as is rampant in FL, etc.

unfuckinglol

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:18 PM
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31. I hope we haven't heard the last from Grayson. He has to run again or become a pundit.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:25 PM
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32. Wow
Grave dancing much? Grayson was a hero for many on here. Many felt he was pretty cool. He had more backbone then quite a few Democrats. You have the right to slam him, but your opinion is in the minority. I am sure quite a few people will remember this slam.. enjoy your time on DU.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:41 PM
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33. Will anyone
in a normally GOP district win unless the GOP totally blows the opportunity somehow? Under the best circumstances(following all- ahem- wise DU advice) we were likely to lose. No, the most frustrating thing was watching the GOP stumble on frantic life supports into an upright position defying all rationality. If it was just the money California would have gone down. We should have been more populist and aggressive, yet it must still have been difficult. And a lot of the little guys were swept away by big picture blunders way up top.

Just plan on destroying the phony GOP for pet's sake and end this whole charade. It doesn't take a perfect progressive party either.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:44 PM
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34. Yes, I loved that he posted on DU,
but that was absolutely one of the worst political ads I have ever seen.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:50 PM
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38. Enjoying that Republican win, are you? nt
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:53 PM
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40. What bullshit. n/t
PB
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:54 PM
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41. No.
That ad was well-deserved.

It was the constituency of Grayson that wasn't ready for it.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:29 PM
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43. exactly
people are so brainwashed they think that only muslims can be the religious zealots who destroy our country, yet christians are trying to do it everyday...
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:14 PM
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42. Yeah, the millions pumped into the campaign by the Chamber of Commerce had no effect
:eyes:
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:33 PM
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44. you're going to piss off the Grayson fanbois here with that talk
you're right it was a dumb ad to run
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:49 PM
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45. Maybe, maybe not...
...we do know that he was targed as "Enemy #1" by the Republicans / Koch Brothers, and a huge barrage of $$$ was aimed in his direction.

So yeah, that ad was a misstep for sure, it did not help and may have hurt. But the money counted for more this time, IMO.


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