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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:42 PM
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Wow, this fifty state platform isn't working out very well for Howard Dean and the DNC
Oh, wait. Nevermind.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:42 PM
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1. BaZinga !
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:44 PM
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5. Hello, fellow The Big Bang Theory watcher!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:47 PM
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15. Hey...
;-)
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:00 PM
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44. I agree, Dr. Cooper.
BaZinga!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:03 PM
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46. That's Dr. Tavalon
I kid. I'm a huge Big Bang fan.

I'm not exactly sure how I'm still kidding. I think it's kid or kill. My fellow American's are really stupid. Fear and low information makes for stupid voters.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:43 PM
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2. !
:D
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:43 PM
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3. Heh!
:thumbsup: from a 51st stater!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:17 PM
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48. 51st stater? I'm confused.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:44 PM
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4. DLC conservative anti-populists squandered everything.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:44 PM
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8. you mean like Obama?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:49 PM
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21. I'm not naming names. It's the damn majority of the Party at this point anyhow.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:54 PM
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28. yep.
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Celtic Raven Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:22 PM
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58. +1
And blaming it on Progressives, LGBTQI, unions, and anyone else they can point a finger at for this mess.
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flying rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:44 PM
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6. Snap!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:49 PM
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22. When I'm right, I'm right, though usually that's only on the odd Tuesday
And this is a really odd, fucking Tuesday.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:44 PM
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7. As is widely known...
the DNC chair can move U3 from nearly 10% to, oh, say, 6-7%, just by dint of his sheer coolness.

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:46 PM
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9. Just who is our DNC chair, BTW?
(ps - I'm a wonk like you guys. I know but I also know that he isn't doing a good job)
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:46 PM
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10. Bingo! Kain has to go!
He's already talking about working with the Republicans...
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:48 PM
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18. Really?
:banghead:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:50 PM
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53. Really, really
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:34 PM
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50. I think he spells his name Kaine, but I'm not really sure
That's a little concerning, don't you think. I always knew how Howard Dean spelled his name and what our platform and plan was when he was leading.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:46 PM
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11. Yeah, what a losing strategy
:evilfrown: :sarcasm:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:08 PM
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35. Kudos on spelling "losing" correctly!
Not many do, you know? It's one of the most frequently misspelled words, like ever!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:18 PM
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37. It's Hugh today.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:46 PM
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12. Yeah. Thank goodness for Tim Kaine.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:47 PM
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17. Tim who?
What was the strategy, BTW?
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:50 PM
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23. Go on the teevee and say he expects to hold both houses?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:56 PM
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31. Well, actually, that's part of his job
It appears to be the only part of his job he didn't phone in.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:23 PM
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49. As best as I could figure..
<=====

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:36 PM
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51. ..
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:46 PM
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13. Ohio still has a very big Dem machine
Offices were staffed way before they were staffed ten years ago.

We are losing half of our congressional seats at the moment. From 10 to 5. All but five seats in Ohio are gerrymandered for gop advantage.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:20 PM
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38. That wasn't my point but that is another point
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:47 PM
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14. ha!
:toast:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:18 PM
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36. Thanks! I'll be here all week.......yadda yadda
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:47 PM
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16. Bring. Back. Dean.
'nuff said.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:52 PM
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26. Amen, Mr. Mondine
I married you for your looks, but you're pretty smart, too.
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:10 AM
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55. Smart enough to drink water
After all the rum I've imbibed.
hic!
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:48 PM
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19. Obama, take note!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:59 PM
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33. I'm worried his notepad is going to say:
"America wants me to move further right and be really fiscally tight. I guess they want that Depression."
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:48 PM
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20. Why try to GOTV in all 50 states when you can back moderate Republicans
and lose. If you do that, you can move the Party even further to the right and get MAD CORPORATE CASH.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:50 PM
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24. and blame the Republicans!
It's a win win!!1111

:grr:
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:02 PM
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45. No, 'they' will blame the "professional left"
And accuse liberals of losing this election for the Democrats because we did not turn out in the numbers we did in 2008.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:06 PM
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47. Well, we did, actually, so either the idiots turned out in bigger numbers
or black box voting in combination with Citizen's United has taken us down. Either way, I'm picking myself up tomorrow and I'm going to make life miserable for every teabagging fool who thought he or she might want to find out what's so damn hard 'bout this here governin'!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:50 PM
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25. This will be my only serious comment on this thread. Citizen's United is unconstitutional
and it is going to destroy this 250 year old experiment.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:29 PM
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40. MAD CORPORATE CASH - that's what it all comes down to.
we are screwn.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:41 PM
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41. Unless and until Citizen's United is buried, we are buried, as in dead
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:58 PM
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43. Worked well tonight, eh?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:54 PM
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27. ouch! so true.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:57 PM
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32. Snark and Tanqueray
It's how I'm getting through the night..................
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:44 PM
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52. Barely
Fuck!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:10 AM
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54. Okay, I've quit with the Tanqueray. I'm getting a killer headache.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:55 PM
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29. Hey, we got Del-1, that's what counts
Grats to John Carney, the only Democrat to win a GOP seat this election cycle?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:55 PM
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30. ya...great job rahm and the rest of the losers
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:59 PM
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34. Now, now, we can't blame Rahm for everything!
Just, almost everything.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:24 PM
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39. it's a striking contrast to '06, for sure
:argh:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:54 PM
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42. Heck of a job, Timmy!
Might want to talk to that other former Governor for some tips. Or just stop phoning it in, perhaps?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:17 AM
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56. It's time to put this really shitty night to bed
Tomorrow, we start to show these upstarts as the useless Party of No.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:56 PM
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57. It was the 50-state strategy that brought us all those blue dogs that lost last night
There are pros and cons to both ways of doing things. The 50 state strategy was basically a copy of the GOP's "big tent" idea (that phrase was coined by Atwater about the party's support for pro-choice New England Republicans, a basically defunct group now) -- try to produce very broad support, which by necessity must in that case be shallow. They're now going for narrow but deep. We can do the same; we'll probably pick up some rust belt and west coast seats we don't have now. Though that model comes with plenty of disadvantages of its own.
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