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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:44 PM
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Today Norman Goldman said that in the past three to four elections party control has swung
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 09:51 PM by live love laugh
from one party to the other like no other time in history.

Tonight, we see another swing. What does it mean? Are people that erratic? Do we vote one way and then wildly and quickly move to the other side? No. PEOPLE don't do that.

I took a few courses in statistics. Numbers don't work that way either--unless there is some external factor (ie. rigged voting machines) that influence them. The probability that this election and the others that swung wildly before it did so naturally is highly unlikely.

I am a logical, rational person. If things make sense, I can deal with them. This--makes no sense. There is no rhyme or reason for this shift in view of all that I know and have seen.

I think that we have been fed a line that we are going to lose to make it easier for the loss to be believable--when it is stolen.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:49 PM
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1. In a zen moment, Brokaw and Mitchell on NBC just referred to the short attention
span of much of the public - that much of what they are taking out on the Dems actually started with the Republicans.

So to me the biggest issue is dealing with either willful or accidental ignorance - the inability to critically think, to learn from the past, and to understand the root causes of problems.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:52 PM
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4. Many voters behave like toddlers.
They want instant gratification and do indeed have very short attention spans and very short memories.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:52 PM
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5. I don't buy into this being a people issue. They make shit up and the gullible believe it while
they steal.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:04 PM
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13. I think mostly fox and the right wing blabber mouths are most
of the cause. The people tune in and just hear this crap over and over and they are finally convinced it is true.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:51 PM
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2. & in 2 years it could swing right back....cause nothing will happen
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:55 PM
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8. Or, they'll keep blaming Obama and the Democrats
They hold the White House, and probably the Senate. These are people who have no fucking clue as to how their government works, and who think that the President is some sort of dictator who writes all the laws.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:52 PM
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3. We are looking for an alternative that is not being offered.
There is an opening for something new, something beyond what the two parties are selling us.

I don't know what it is, but I suspect that some new crisis, possibly an increase in the pace of global warming or maybe bankrupt cities or perhaps oil so expensive we can no longer waste it in the gas tanks of our cars, will cause a new political movement to grow out of the mess we are in.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:53 PM
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6. I don't believe that either. There is a majority in this country and it is not republican.
Yet republicans continue to "win". What does that tell you?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:54 PM
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7. That is part of the answer
the other is outright election fraud...

How much of what... good question, since election fraud is as old as the US.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:58 PM
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10. Collapse. Its coming. We've got 2 years. tick-tock.
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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:55 PM
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9. The Republicans have control of the House
....what? They haven't fixed the economy, ended two wars and retired the deficit yet?
THROW THE BUMS OUT!
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:00 PM
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12. minor correction. They want to start two MORE wars. -nt
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:59 PM
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11. The economy sucks, the media sucks
The media, by and large, is in the pocket of powerful moneyed interests. Those interests prefer republicans.
The economy took a shit right before Obama took office, and the republicans and blue dogs held enough sway to put a damper on the best way to fix it.

Most people have too much shit on their plate to begin to unravel the reasons why the economy sucks, who to blame, and how effective the in helping.

This is what republicans were banking on during their last two years of blind obstructionism.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:14 PM
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14. And now they have two more during which we will hear how Obama is going to lose. But he wont. Mark
My Words.
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