Tim Kaine Appreciation thread

[hollowdweller]

Heckuva Job Tim!!!

Way to get those dems elected!!!

Oh and great job on working with the insurance and pharmaceutical industry so we could get that Healthcare Bill passed Rahm.



:sarcasm:

[treestar]

1. New scapegoat, eh?

[devereaux]

4. People have disliked Kaine for a long time

Howard Dean is a tough act to follow, and Kaine is not delivering.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

14. Not new, just maybe THIS time people get it.

Trying and losing is one thing but this sap has no clue.
No Fucking Clue.

[ScreamingMeemie]

28. Deserved owner of what has happened here.

[mmonk]

40. Can't we liberals have one? We're used to being scapegoated.

[Kurovski]

41. He's a massive mediocrity, at best.

Canned cliches.

[VMI Dem]

2. Who the fuck put that idiot in power anyway?

[Bumblebee]

8. Unfortunately, Obama, as a consolation prize for not choosing him as his VP

[VMI Dem]

11. Oh...then it was a brilliant decision.

[kath]

17. Of course it was brilliant - three-dimensional chess and all that.

:puke:

[budkin]

3. Worse than McAuliffe

[Nite Owl]

9. Somewhat worse

but McAuliff was pretty bad.

[EFerrari]

23. Don't go overboard now.

:)

[blondeatlast]

32. No, Kaine is bad, but McAuliffe was, well, especially, uniquely awful. nt

[Bumblebee]

5. This IS Obama's fault. Even if he had the right to replace Dean

Kaine should have been gone after the fiascoes in New Jersey and Mass.

[hollowdweller]

25. Especially Mass

I mean crucian vote in the Senate there and Kaine and the DNC were asleep at the wheel.

[Nite Owl]

6. Total lack of leadership

on his part.

[amerikat]

7. Where have you gone Howard Dean a nation

turns it's lonely eyes to you.

[Overseas]

35. He was a great myth buster. Said what needed to be said-- Republicans are better for the economy?

"Are you kidding me?" Dr. Dean said quite forcefully, with facts on his side-- "They've run up the biggest deficits in our nation's history. Time and again."

He would not have left the nation's wake up-- when Repubs were at 29% popularity-- go to waste. He or I would have suggested that if the President wanted to do a bipartisan charm offensive, then only a few of the Democrats should go with him. The others should work that national wake up-- The GOP crashed our economy and our moral standing in the world.

They claimed to be strong on national security-- 9/11 happened on their watch. They dismissed the Clintons' obsession with Osama and took their eyes off the ball. Those Republicans. They have made our nation far less militarily secure with their torture ridden war on Iraq, just as we seemed to have had Osama cornered.

Howard would have lots of Democrats out there in all 50 states, reminding folks of our shared bitter experience-- the GOP lies were exposed. They were not great at the economy-- they crashed it-- the gap between rich and poor has exploded since Reagan's cruel "trickle down"-- the economic graphs looked so similar to the 1920's -- I was just sure Democrats would finally push their way into government with their massive mandate and go super FDR on the country. It would be Democrats' big chance to win back the country for decades to come.

I'd expect Dean and a team of courageous Democratic legislators to be out there explaining-- Folks, you've seen it for yourselves-- the GOP myths-- "We're good at the economy." and "We're good at national security." are both lies. They crashed the economy and increased our international enemies tenfold.

The 50-state strategy was more of an All American Strategy-- recognizing that most Americans want us to lead on green technologies, to have Medicare for All, to value labor more, to rebalance our economy.

Sad so sad that legislators' personal re-elections too often trump our country's long term health. They think they need that corporate cash.

But yes, I miss Dr. Dean because he really busted open those long term easy PR lies-- Republicans crashed our economy and he would not have let that recognition in the majorities of Nov 2008 go to waste.

[tavalon]

10. You might want to piggy back on my thread

Same but with more sarcasm.

[Gold Metal Flake]

12. But but but The Key Fobs! The Brilliant Key Fobs!

[Canuckistanian]

13. Man up, Tim Kaine

Show your balls. Er, I mean SOME balls. Erm, never mind.

You're useless.

[jgraz]

15. Oh come on. It's a D. Inside a *circle*!

How could we lose?

[WillyT]

19. LOL !!!

:evilgrin:

[Matariki]

27. !!!

funny. true. sad.

[leftstreet]

37. lol

[Terra Alta]

16. Kaine needs to go

and perhaps replaced with Grayson or Feingold... we need a REAL Dem leading the DNC not another DLCer.

[Lady President]

30. Great Idea

Either Grayson or Feingold leading the DNC would be a silver lining to this election.

[ncteechur]

18. You all are wrong. It is everyone's fault and no one's particular fault.

Tim Kaine had focused today on GOTV which arguably worked very well in some areas. But let's look at a few places.


Is it Kaine's fault Grayson lost? Nope.
How about Meek? Meek should have dropped out and let Crist run a stronger race with Dem endorsements. Meek should have stayed in House.
How about Bayh fucking things up? Kaines fault? Nope.
Which races exactly were Tim Kaines fault?

Did Kaine rule on Citizen's United? Nope.

Did Kaine cause Conway to run that stupid AquaBuddah ad?

You can blame Obama and Kaine all you want but it isn't their fault.

[jgraz]

20. It's that kind of clear-eyed analysis that will lead us to victory in 2012!

:eyes:

[blondeatlast]

34. I call that eyeroll and raise a

:banghead:.

[blondeatlast]

33. Wrong--I lay the Florida Senate squarely in the national party's lap.

The, Party. Supports. Its. Own. Er, I thought that was how it is supposed to go.

[walldude]

38. Um.. it was Kaine's job to set the tone and the message

for the Democrats. Strategy was his job, and he sucked at it. He does have to take some of the blame for this... The Dems had only one clear message "We aren't as bad as they are". What a fucking joke.

[JI7]

21. You think Michael Steele had much to do with REpublicans winning ?

[jgraz]

24. Not nearly as much as Tim Kaine did

[hollowdweller]

26. No he didn't even have to try.

Because our side wasn't trying. Take that, add the economy and it's not too good.

[leftstreet]

22. Proud to unRec!

:applause:

[ScreamingMeemie]

29. +1 for your -1! I unrecced too!

:hi:

[Chisox08]

31. Heckuva a job Brownie I mean Timmy

[renate]

36. he seems like a nice guy

Which was the problem. I wouldn't have wanted a Rahm heading the DNC, but someone with some feistiness (paging Dr. Dean) would have been better.

[StreetKnowledge]

39. First on the list of those who need to be fired.

No more FUCKING BLUE DOGS. Those idiots fail repeatedly, whereas real progressives seem to usually win. The Republicans are where the rich people park their money. To hell with them, if you want to represent just the rich, go join the Republicans.