OK...they are not stupid.....they are just ignorant....

[BooScout]

Especially if some of the comments I have seen on my FB page from many college educated and even further advanced degreed fools are what they truely believe. Lot's of God Bless Americas, anti socialist rants and birther comments from people who should know better. Pretty much there are a lot of just plain ill-informed dumb fucks in America.

8 years of George Bush and his destruction of America and damage to the rest of the world........and they are mad because the Democrats couldn't fix it all in 21 months. Wait until they clue into the fact that the voting in a Republican House won't do a damned thing to fix the freaking problems.

[Lost4words]

1. your blame and anger is misdirected, look in the WH! nt

[BooScout]

2. Oh Bullshit...

You cannot blame everything on Obama. I vote for Obama because I couldn't vote for Hillary. I also knew at the time I voted for him that Obama would never live up to all the hype......no human possibly could. Americans always want a hero on a white horse that's going to make everything better at the snap of your fingers. Some problems are so big that it just can't be done, not overnight, not in a few weeks, not in a few months. It will take years to recover from the damage the Republicans have dumped on America....and even after years of repairs........it will never be the same. Some of the damage is permanent.

[Lost4words]

6. I blame Obamas failure on Obama, not everything

he does after all have great parties at the WH.

[immune]

19. So "its all Obama's fault,

so I'll vote for Rand Paul, et al." Is that how it worked?

Great plan.

[hfojvt]

12. Don't you know that the voters would not have voted in a bunch of

rightwing conservatives if only Obama had been more liberal. That's the only reason people vote out people like Grayson and Feingold and make Blunt and Moran into Senators - because they really want liberals.

[gateley]

20. We DON'T know that. There's a very powerful component at play - racism. nt

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[liberalmuse]

5. You forgot the 'sarcasm' emoticon...

It's most crucial in this day and age.

[Lost4words]

7. wasnt being sarcastic,......nt

[BeyondGeography]

3. Most people work for fucked up corporations that have been consolidating resources for years

and screwing them out of money and benefits while the country slip-slides into the mediocrity that is its destiny in a reshaped, unforgiving global economy.

If you're over 40, the cozy-comfy employment world you grew up in has become irrelevant, and it's a dogfight to make sure you don't turn out the same way.

They don't talk about that.

Politicians are convenient scapegoats. The real long-term screwing happens right under their noses, but that reality is too unpleasant. Avoidance behavior.

[hobbit709]

8. I'd rather have them stupid than willfully ignorant.

Stupid can be fixed.

[okieinpain]

9. if you really smell the coffee this morning. dems are not in a real

bad position. they just screwed up, the healthcare debate took way too long to resolve. that time and energy should have gone into job creation. tweety kept saying it last night, why does europe have high speed rails and we don't, if the time spent on healthcare was put on something like that, hell we might have bucked the trend last night and gained seats.

dems do not have to do the circular firing squad this morning, just realize we fucked up and not do it again.

[LatteLibertine]

10. IMO the willfully ignorant may as well be stupid

[IndyPragmatist]

11. oh really?

I don't know about your facebook friends, but I would not call those who supported the Republicans yesterday "stupid".

This election was lost by the Democrats, plan and simple. There were too many wild promises made by the Democrats to have a chance in this election. We were told unemployment would never get this high if we passed the stimulus, whoops. We were told that we would be out of Iraq and Afghanistan, whoops. We were told (by Pelosi) that we would have no new deficit spending, whoops.

The Democrat leadership didn't understand the priorities of the American public. During the 2008 election, healthcare was a huge issue because the economy, while not strong, hadn't collapsed yet. Most educated Americans understand that the healthcare reform passed will be an inhibitor to economic growth. Those in support of the reform did so because they felt healthcare was too important to ignore. Well, since January of 2008, things have changed. The stock market collapsed, unemployment has skyrocketed, and the priorities of the general public have changed. The economy became the #1 issue for most Americans, and they felt that the Democrats did not do a good job handling it.

Some felt that putting healthcare before the economy was a terrible move. They still may support healthcare reform, but would like to see the economy growing at a steady rate before this was addressed.

Another issue is the debt. Obama and Pelosi said time and time again that they were concerned about the national debt, but it didn't seem like they did. The public saw continuous spending in the red. Then they also hear that the President wants to push cap and trade; so again, the public feels like the Democratic leadership is focusing on the wrong issues.

While many people on both sides are ignorant, I wouldn't call them this just for voting for Republicans this time. Obama was given a pretty terrible situation, but he didn't make the right moves. In an era of unlimited information and opinion, this was bound to happen.

[hfojvt]

13. everything you mention sounds pretty stupid and very ignorant

"the public saw continous spending in the red"

Oh noes. How else are you supposed to get out of a recession? But cutting spending (and therefore jobs)? That's just brilliant. People who are worried about the deficit certainly should not elect Republicans who are pledged to increase the deficit by giving huge tax breaks to millionaires. That's just ignorant.

[IndyPragmatist]

14. ...

"People who are worried about the deficit certainly should not elect Republicans who are pledged to increase the deficit by giving huge tax breaks to millionaires. That's just ignorant."

Agreed. But this election was based on the people believing that this will not happen. The Republicans have had a history of this, and this created the Tea Party (which soon was overtaken by the Republican Party). I think most were hoping that the Republicans realized their old way of governing was not popular and will focus on long term sustainability.


And to get out of a recession, we need to put capital in the hands of job creators. There should be more focus on reducing corporate tax rates instead of personal income tax rates. Maybe then we wouldn't see so many companies shift their revenue to other countries to avoid our massive corporate taxes.

[hfojvt]

15. so the public believes Republicans will be different

even though Republicans say they are not gonna be different, except on the spending side http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/101

and the public is not ignorant?

That reminds me of the poll showing a majority of Americans were against the Bush tax cuts. So then why did they vote for the dipwad? This whole "let's vote for people and then demand that they NOT do the very things that they promised to do before we elected them" is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of. People, please, by voting for them you are giving them a mandate to do what they promised to do.

And your answer is corporate tax breaks? Perhaps you have not read that a majority of corporations ALREADY do NOT pay taxes?

What would that be an example of?

[BooScout]

16. I didn't call them stupid ......I called them ignorant.

If you're going to accuse me of something then perhaps it would be better if you took the time to read and comprehend what I wrote. Sort of like the ignorant ones I mentioned who never bother to understand just what exactly has been going on in politics the last decade.

The Democrats understand the priorities of Americans. The American publics attention can be compared to that of a gnat. They want their treats now....and bugger how they get them or what the cost is.

[IndyPragmatist]

18. come on now

You may have refrained from calling them stupid in your subject, but you did call them "dumb fucks".

[Catherina]

17. What's ignorant is being unwilling to face the truth and ignoring the real cause of this fiasco. n/t