If people were waiting for an outspoken liberal, why did Grayson/Feingold lose?

[apples and oranges]

If people want our leaders to be more liberal, then why do they keep voting repugs in? I'm confused about the lesson we are to take away from this.

[Junkdrawer]

1. Being alone, Grayson was an easy target of massive spending. n/t

[ProfessionalLeftist]

2. Citizens United. ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)

The corprats bought themselves a different model.

[YOY]

3. Do you know how much cash was dumped in to toast Grayson?

Comparitively to other races?

Of course if you personally want shit to move further to the right then by all means keep that thought going. Sure it will all work out.

[kick-ass-bob]

12. Exactly. They targeted those 2 extensively. n/t

[county worker]

4. People were told a pack of lies. You can't judge this as if there were

real honest choices put out there by the ads.

[Freddie Stubbs]

9. How is that different from any other election?

[county worker]

17. I didn't say it was.

[Vincardog]

5. What lesson do you take from it?

[gmoney]

6. They're in the wrong places, maybe?

Maybe transplant Feingold to Massachusetts to run against Scott "Pimp Daddy" Brown next time around?

[Recursion]

7. The argument is that a some motion is better than none

That is, the argument is that if Republicans are effective at actually getting their policy, even if they prefer our policies to theirs, they will vote for the people who are effective.

Alternately, an actually implemented conservative policy, even if worse than a liberal policy, is better than a half-hearted mish-mash like we have now.

I don't particularly buy either argument, but they're not absurd on their face.

[LibDemAlways]

8. I think people vote "R" out of ignorance. We have a hugely

ignorant population in part because the news media is so skewed to the right and out and out refuses to tell the truth.

All most people hear is the meme that Dems are big spenders who run up deficits and promote anti-Christian values, while R's want to cut taxes and spending and are the party of decent churchgoers. Of course, that's all bullshit. Under Bush, deficits went through the roof, and repukes are the biggest hypocrites on earth when it comes to living the "values" they crow about, but you'd never know it if you relied on the MSM for your information.

If the media whores swallowed truth serum and reported factually, there would be only a small group of millionaires in the Repuke party. Everyone else would wise up in a hurry. It really is stupid to vote against your own self interest, which is what every non-millionaire who votes R is doing.

[joeybee12]

10. So, the WH is playing the blame game already? Then why did half the Blue Dogs lose? nt

[EstimatedProphet]

11. Because the idea that dems staying home will lead to progressive success is severely fucked up

[zipplewrath]

13. Because they were marginalized

There was such love for the Blue Dogs amongst the DLC, DNC, and the White House that the progressives got marinalized and looked weak and ineffective.

[zipplewrath]

14. Because they were marginalized

There was such love for the Blue Dogs amongst the DLC, DNC, and the White House that the progressives got marinalized and looked weak and ineffective.

[H2O Man]

15. clown

[Not Me]

16. I live in Grayson's district...

I have voted for him twice, I have sent him money in both campaigns. I made phone calls for him. He is a smart man.
But his persona does not reflect the people in his district. Understand that his district was horribly gerrymandered in 2000 to ensure it stays republican, and includes the Villages, one of the largest retirement communities in the country.
In 2008, he pulled off quite the coup, unseating Ric Keller.

I wish he had won. But in the end, many of his constituents were turned off by his style.

[SlimJimmy]

20. I'm in CD 13 and we heard many of the same things.

I posted here a while back that I thought he would win re-election, but that was before the infamous "Taliban Dan" ad hit the airways. In my opinion, that was the beginning of the end for him. It's hard to come back from that kind of negative response.

I wish he had won. But in the end, many of his constituents were turned off by his style.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. Grayson was on the top ten for the GOP

and MONEY poured, If you were correct, why did his neighbor lose, blue dog

[frylock]

19. if you like conservative politics, why aren't you a republican?

why not try to fix the republican party rather than break the democratic party?

[YOY]

21. Because we all know how popular New Coke was!

People just flocked to that imitation Pepsi shit over real Pepsi!!!

[Viking12]

22. Johnson spent >$8million of his own money against Feingold

Add to that the corporate shills that were polluting Wisconsin's airwaves, mailboxes, and phone lines and Feingold was out spent 4-1. Kind of proves his point about the necessity of campaign finance reform.

[Klukie]

23. Because society doesn't know how to handle an outspoken liberal anymore

It is alien to even members of the democratic party. It is expected when a thuglican is outspoken...hell it is embraced. It is shocking when a dem does it because it isn't the norm. Democrats have allowed themselves to be demonized for years...so much so that they ran from a perfectly good and just word..liberal. We do fight...we just don't fight BACK that well.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

24. you're confused. isn't that just special

What do YOU want from our leaders, praytell? None of this "objective confusion" crap you're trying to sell, tell me what you think the lesson was from last night. This isn't the day for wishy-washy bullshit. Say what you have to say, and keep clear of moving parts. You're playing in General Discussion now, little one, no training wheels. Be more direct, or protect your throat.

[Uzybone]

25. Because, like it or not, some people actually really prefer conservatives

they are foolish for doing so, and many are totally bamboozled, but they dont like liberals.

[BurtWorm]

26. All politics is local.

:shrug: