Moveon.org blasts repubs and corporate front groups after election...

[cynatnite]

We have seen significant accomplishments over the last two years --more children have health care, more Americans are protected from predatory practices on Wall Street, and more students can afford to go to college. But Republicans and corporate front groups like the Chamber of Commerce, aided by FOX News, systematically misled the American people about the nature of those gains.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/live/tpm-midterms-wire/#1489

[AC_Mem]

1. Thank you MoveOn.org

FoxGOPers are drunk with victory, and will probably remain so (drunk) for the next 2 years while they dismantle what we worked so hard to build.

It is so sad that it will take the FoxGOP putting us into a national depression to wake these fools up.

[IndyPragmatist]

2. i agree on most points, but....

I still have a problem with the Republicorp campaign they pushed. That was as low as anything the GOP did against Obama. I know the point was to just get attention, but if they keep this up, they will alienate themselves from most Democrats. Didn't MoveOn.org at one time claim they were above the fallacious attacks of the GOP?

[EnlightenedOne]

3. Your subtlety isn't working

Republicorp wasn't low, it was true. The GOP are lined up with the corporations through and through - now, sit and watch as more jobs leave this country and the insurance, drug, weapons and war industries make out like bandits - and we'll be lucky if they even keep the minimum wage, since most Tea Partiers are against it. We'll be China if they had their way - working for $5 a day.

[IndyPragmatist]

5. not completely true...

While the gist of the campaign was based in truth, it was a made up group to try to trick uninformed independents to vote Democrat. What if the GOP started a campaign pretending to be from Al-Qaeda, and they said that they are happy that Obama is the president because he is very sympathetic to their cause? It's a lie, but some people would believe it.


Again, both sides of the isle disgusted me with some of the ads this campaign. GOP was worse because they had more fuel. But Republicorp is not a good direction. More lies are the LAST thing we need in Washington, MoveOn should be ashamed.

[EnlightenedOne]

6. WHAT?

The GOP have been saying for years that Obama is a Muslim, and not an American citizen, and then there were commercials that he was being funded by Hammas. It doesn't get any uglier than that. And there is not one shred of truth to any of it, yet the dumasses believe it as they cling to their bibles and their guns.

Who do you think John Boehner is going to side with - you or the insurance/drug companies that fund him?

Who do you think Mitch McConnell is going to side with - you or the gas/oil companies who fund him?

And the list goes on. It wasn't a "trick", it was the "truth", which apparently you are far removed from.

[IndyPragmatist]

8. You seem to have trouble making a distinction

You are so far out there that you make me seem like a Republican. BP funded Obama more than anyone, did he side with them during the spill? No. Just because the GOP does something, doesn't make it right. I mean, we might as well ban muslim clothing, France did it, so it must be okay.

MoveOn.org created a fake webpage, with a fake stock ticker, fake investment page, fake everything. There is enough factual evidence out there to show how some corporations are influencing the GOP. However, MoveOn thought it would be better if people believed lies, and voted out of fear....wow, that sounds really familiar.

We will continue to go back and forth between Dem and Rep with little getting accomplished if this keeps up. But whats the point of democracy if you can just scare people into voting one way. It's worked for Dems and its worked for Reps.

[EnlightenedOne]

9. Maybe you're just young

or you are a republican (Moveon favorite talking point) - either way - you just don't get it and I don't have the time to explain it to you. MoveOn.org is a grass roots organization, they're aren't the "media" nor or they supposed to be the legitimate "media". This was their campaign message. That's it, that's all - to get a message across that the GOP is the party of corporations and big money. You must have missed the 8 years of the Bush/Cheney administration where every election Bin Laden would put out a tape a day or two before and there were bogus terror warnings constantly, all winding up to be either compltely illegitmate threats or downright made up bs. Fear is a great motivator. Fear of the black man, fear of the muslim, fear they'll take your guns away, etc., etc. Moveon's ad wasn't about fear, it was about reality. I can't make it any clearer than that, nor do I want to.

[IndyPragmatist]

10. I guess partisanship trumps progress again

No need to help the country, lets just scream at the opposition and call them idiots. Thats what made America great!


You cannot be serious. This just shows that you put your party ahead of common sense. Jon Stewart would be ashamed of you. Lies are wrong from both sides of the isle, but you justify MoveOn.org because the GOP was mean too. We really need to have an agency to control political ads. MoveOn is as bad as Glen Beck. Both can justify anything as long as there is a tiny bit of truth behind it. Obama once wore a hijab, so that makes him a muslim. No, its not true, but muslims wear hijabs, so Obama must be a muslim.

Again, its pretty sad to attack "fear mongering" from one side of the isle, and completely condone it from another.

[whathehell]

11. "Jon Stewart would be ashamed of you"

Who gives a flying fuck about Jon Stewart TODAY?

Freaking A...He didn't even tell that sizeable crowd to go out and VOTE!


"Jon Stewart would be ashamed of you"...Aw gee..I almost feel like doing penance.:eyes:

[EnlightenedOne]

12. I'm sorry

you're just not smart enough for me to waste my time on.

[flamingdem]

4. From what I've seen you write it's no surprise you'd zoom in on criticizing Moveon nt

[mstinamotorcity]

7. The whole Damn Repug Party is Full of S--t

This is not about anything but money and keeping people sub-servant to the Corporate Masters. They don't give a fuck about color except to pit it against one another. This is about Old Ass Dinosaurs who want to remain in control of people's very lives for profit and power. To them they do not have enough.The fact that the President is African American is like the bonus plan to them. They don't think highly of non-whites any way. They have trashed every ethnic background they could. This is about green and envy. The two things that drive people like this to see who can gain the most no matter who they must f--k to do it.

I believe they did something with the election and I don't care what no one says. They were reporting victory two minutes after the polls closed. Every station,poll, and Newspaper were in sink and have stayed that way throughout the last couple of months. The cash flowed hot and it flowed heavy. They altered it in some way in some areas because the people don't lie.Soon we will be hearing about ballots not counted or saying they were fraudulent or their will be discrepancies in voting tabulating machines or something and by that time it will have been well after inauguration Day.