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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:04 PM
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Glenn Greenwald: Pundits falsely blaming "the left " and "liberals" for Democrats election losses




Pundit sloth: blaming the Left
November 3, 2010

Ten minutes was the absolute maximum I could endure of any one television news outlet last night without having to switch channels in the futile search for something more bearable, but almost every time I had MNSBC on, there was Lawrence O'Donnell trying to blame "the Left" and "liberalism" for the Democrats' political woes. Alan Grayson's loss was proof that outspoken liberalism fails. Blanche Lincoln's loss was the fault of the Left for mounting a serious primary challenge against her. Russ Feingold's defeat proved that voters reject liberalism in favor of conservatism, etc. etc. It sounded as though he was reading from some crusty script jointly prepared in 1995 by The New Republic, Lanny Davis and the DLC.

There are so many obvious reasons why this "analysis" is false: Grayson represents a highly conservative district that hadn't been Democratic for decades before he won in 2008 and he made serious mistakes during the campaign; Lincoln was behind the GOP challenger by more than 20 points back in January, before Bill Halter even announced his candidacy; Feingold was far from a conventional liberal, having repeatedly opposed his own party on multiple issues, and he ran in a state saddled with a Democratic governor who was unpopular in the extreme. Beyond that, numerous liberals who were alleged to be in serious electoral trouble kept their seats: Barney Frank, John Dingell, Rush Holt, Raul Grijalva, and many others. But there's one glaring, steadfastly ignored fact destroying O'Donnell's attempt -- which is merely the standard pundit storyline that has been baking for months and will now be served en masse -- to blame The Left and declare liberalism dead. It's this little inconvenient fact:

Blue Dog Coalition Crushed By GOP Wave Election

Tuesday was a tough night for Democrats, as they watched Republicans win enough seats to take back the House in the next Congress and began to ponder life under a likely House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). But one group hit especially hard was the Blue Dog Coalition, with half of its members losing their seats.

According to an analysis by The Huffington Post, 23 of the 46 Blue Dogs up for re-election went down on Tuesday. Notable losses included Rep. Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin (D-S.D.), the coalition's co-chair for administration, and Rep. Baron Hill (D-Ind.), the co-chair for policy. Two members were running for higher office (both lost), three were retiring and three races were still too close to call.

The Blue Dogs, a coalition of moderate to conservative Democrats in the House, have consistently frustrated their more progressive colleagues and activists within the party . . . .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/03/blue-dog-coalition-gop-wave-elections_n_778087.html


But for slothful pundits who want to derive sweeping meaning from individual races in order to blame the Left and claim that last night was a repudiation of liberalism, the far more rational conclusion -- given the eradication of 50% of the Blue Dog caucus -- is that the worst possible choice Democrats can make is to run as GOP-replicating corporatists devoted above all else to serving corporate interests in order to perpetuate their own power: what Washington calls "centrists" and "conservative Democrats." That is who bore the bulk of the brunt of last night's Democratic bloodbath -- not liberals.

On a related note, in The New York Times today, one finds the spectacle of Evan Bayh -- who gave up his Senate seat to a Republican while he frolics around in the millions of dollars his wife receives from the health care industry -- demanding massive entitlement cuts for the poor and freezes on the pay for government workers, while also blaming the Democratic loss on the alleged fact that "we were too deferential to our most zealous supporters." Is he referring there to the escalation in the war in Afghanistan, the massive increase in civilian-slaughtering drone attacks, the virtually wholesale embrace of the Bush/Cheney civil liberties architecture, the defense of Don't-Ask/Don't-Tell and DOMA, the multi-billion-dollar bailout of Wall Street, the failure to stem the tide of the foreclosure crisis, or the elimination of the public option? Apparently, the lesson Evan Bayh -- and most pundits -- took from last night's results, and which they want the Party to learn, is that if only Democrats had suppressed the enthusiasm of their base just a little more, they would have won.

Read the full article at:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/11/03/pundit/index.html
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StandingInLeftField Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:11 PM
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1. As you predicted.
"Look out for that bus!!"
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:21 PM
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2. Check out this update:
"UPDATE II: The number of Obama followers writing to me on Twitter and elsewhere telling me that left-wing critics of the President are the primary cause of last night's outcome -- rather than massive economic suffering and the actions of their Leader -- is even more than I expected. Bizarrely, they actually seem to have convinced themselves of this; I suppose one who is desperate to cling to their leader-love will find any theory that shields him from responsibility. Behold the supreme power of the Professional Left!!"
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:25 PM
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4. Grreenwald is not about to take responsibility for his actions
that would be completely out of character
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:55 PM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:16 PM
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17. LOL. That's so funny.
It can't be that people are out of work and losing their homes. Greenwald cost us the election!!1111111
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:57 PM
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24. To be honest...
coming from you, it sounds reasonable. :rofl:

It's a fact that one of the reasons I held hope in an Obama presidency was to save my mom's home in her retirement. How soon all those promises were cast asunder. And you know I paid very close attention.

We've kept her here at great cost of all kinds, and no thanks to the Obama Administration. We continue to fight the fucktasticly corrupt bank.

(she said she'd rather die than leave) Obviously an enormous drama queen, just like her son.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:47 PM
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27. Chase is trying to steal my mother's home.
And she doesn't have the money to hire an attorney so that leaves her with me.

But we can't have a foreclosure moratorium because some freeloaders might take advantage.

Yeah, right. I didn't know I was voting for an administration that would protect Goldman Sachs and Blue Cross and BP but not my mom. Silly me.

Hugs and strength as always. :hug:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:23 PM
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28. Have you heard of this? I haven't investigated it yet...
"NACA"?, my notes read: "all mortgage services free" "save the dream tour". I remember it sounded good. Getting payments down to 500. Other stuff. I'd look it up but I have to head to bed.

Personally, I don't understand why some wonderful millionaire hasn't fallen head over heels in love with you and made all this moot. I know I did long ago. :) :hug:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:56 AM
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30. Here's what you're looking for.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:25 PM
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3. Glenn Greenwald was a part of the reason the GOP won
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:35 PM
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7. Nonsense.
Tweets: @barryeisler People saying "Dems lost midterms b/c of leftwing criticism" are twins of ppl who say "US lost war b/c of war critics."

@ggreenwald: One day, maybe Barack Obama will acquire the immense power wielded by bloggers so that he, too, can shape election outcomes.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:23 PM
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18. bull, there is a reason the GOP constantly criticizes the Democrats
the reason is because it hurts the Dems
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:08 PM
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14. And your theory on that would be?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:12 PM
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16. Agree 100%
Greenwald is a fucking piece of hate-filled garbage and he's helping the Republicans daily.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:27 PM
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20. +1 n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:25 PM
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29. Bullshit!
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:21 AM
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31. Right, because the "professional left" has such an influential voice in the media
Again, you should just come straight out and say that all criticism of Obama ought to be silenced. Freedom!
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:28 PM
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5. Well, Grayson is the bomb, but
He didn't help in this regard by repeatedly (as in many many, times) stating that his race would be a test of whether outspoken progressivism was viable in Washington. He was over-confident and over-optimistic.

Grayson himself insisted that his race would show whether being an aggressive liberal was a working strategy, so even though the MSM sucks and is full of propaganda, they kind of have a point on this one.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:34 PM
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6. Greenwald seconds your remarks when he wrote:

"made serious mistakes during the campaign."
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:53 PM
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10. I read the DU live blog with Grayson
Which I thoroughly enjoyed, and which showed Grayson once again to be a great guy.

However, it was also clear he has a little bit of an ego on him. As a quasi-Buddhist, I perhaps know a little more than some about how that can affect people's decisions and psychology. I wish Grayson hadn't let his head swell with all the hype and adoration and realized that his race wasn't going to be a test of whether being a progressive in Congress was viable, but rather a test of whether lightning can strike twice in a Repuke district.

And lightning generally doesn't strike twice, no matter how awesome we might be.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:36 PM
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8. And never-ending negativism from Greenwald and his ilk...
had nothing to do with the events of last night.

Right.

Sid
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:05 PM
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12. see post 7.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:40 PM
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9. K&R
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:06 PM
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13. And in other news, the sun rose in the east this morning.
Let's face it . . . . "blame the left" is the catch-all response to just about any set of circumstances.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:10 PM
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15. Tee-hee. The Centrists attack the left then blame them for not being "enthused".
The irony is delicious.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:30 PM
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21. More like mind boggling. LOL Such a dysfunctional family. "Mom" shakes the kid
and yells at him for being an idiot, then hugs him close and begs to know why he doesn't love her.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:26 PM
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19. Glenn Greenwald: automatic unrecommend n/t
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:30 PM
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22. The Repukes had to spend a ton of money in Grayson's district to oust him.
Compare that to the Blue Dog in the next district over who went down easily.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:50 PM
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23. And Grayson's is a ludicrously Rep-gerrymandered district at that.

... a small snippet of Orlando, then waaaay on up north through increasingly rural and conservative counties. It was truly a miracle any Dem was elected there in the first place.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:02 PM
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25. This is predictable
will swing RIGHT ...

They are incapable of learning...
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:30 PM
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26. Lynn Woolsey: Only 2 members of 83 member House Progressive Caucus lost their seats.


“It's going to be hard years for our progressives,” said Woolsey, a leader of the 83-member House Progressive Caucus.

But only two members of the progressive group had lost their seats, she said.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20101102/ARTICLES/101109883/1350?Title=Woolsey-Thompson-re-elected-in-two-Congressional-races-
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