Let's stop with the macho bullshit about Boehner crying.

[Goblinmonger]

Calling into question his manliness because he cried is the same mentality that that leads to calling people pussies and fags because they don't fit the societal view of what it means to be a "man." Which leads to much worse things down to the line to those that are homosexual.

Personally I thought it was hilarious that he was so damn drunk giving that speech, but let's stop the meme that real men don't cry. And that if they do they somehow can't lead the country. He's going to be a shitty Speaker because he's an asshat--it has nothing to do with his crying.

/rant

[MNBrewer]

1. Drunk. With Power.

[niceypoo]

2. Face it

Boner is a sniveling wimp

[scheming daemons]

3. We're throwing it at him because of the RIGHT's propensity to tell Dems to "man up"

It's the hypocrisy.

[Goblinmonger]

6. I understand that irony.

But the majority of the comments I read aren't pointing out that hypocrisy but making a comment about it being bad in general. My take anyway.

[Kookaburra]

4. The only thing I call into question about the boner

is his sobriety, and I think we're all in agreement on that.

[Goblinmonger]

9. I don't even think it was a question he was drunk.

He was slurring his words and didn't have complete physical control. THAT was an embarrassment.

[PVnRT]

5. It has nothing to do with macho, and everything to do with playing to the cameras

Just like Glen Beck.

[originalpckelly]

7. I cry a lot.

I'm also a bi-polar fag. Take from that what you will. :P

[Goblinmonger]

13. I cry a lot, too.

And if I were gay, I believe I would be referred to as a bear. Hope the bi-polar part is under control for you.

[originalpckelly]

18. Oh thanks! I'm so touched I'm about to cry...

:-)

Just kidding.

I think it's cool to cry, we all need to be emo and do it more often.

[lillypaddle]

47. LOL

:rofl:

[dave29]

8. No. It has nothing to do with macho bullshit

and everything to do with his drunken rambling. Real men can cry all they want, but during a rambling drunken victory speech upon taking the reigns of part of our Government, his mental state is fair game.

[Goblinmonger]

10. And I agree with that.

But that's not what a lot of the responses are about here.

[Johnny2X2X]

11. Power

Those were tears of joy at the thought of all the money and power he just was handed. He now gets more power to force feed his morals and values down the American public, or should I say his corporate sponsor's values.

[kenny blankenship]

12. My only concern -more a curiosity really- is whether his tears are 80 proof or 100.

If you light them on fire, do they have an invisible flame or is it blue?

[BurtWorm]

14. How come only Republican men are allowed to cry in public?

What's up with that shit?

[Naturyl]

50. Because it's taken for granted they are "real" men

And therefore it's okay for them to cry.

Ridiculous, but that's what it is. That's the MSM narrative, as well as the unconscious psychology in the average home.

When Dems cry, on the other hand, it is because they are emo wimps, unbalanced, hippies, etc.

[BurtWorm]

52. Well I say if we can't cry, they can't cry.

So I reserve the right to call Boehner and Beck big fat phony weepie babies.

[arbusto_baboso]

15. It's just odd, because we're going to see him crying a LOT more in the near future.

Only it won't be for reasons that Boehner likes...

[Iggo]

16. He's a crybaby.

It calls into question his maturity, not his "manliness."

[Goblinmonger]

19. Had I just become Speaker, I might cry.

I have to fight back tears when I read the part of Mockingbird where Scout meets Boo outloud to my class. I will most likely cry if I make my National teacher certification this month. Jon Stewart cried after 9/11 on national TV. Is our maturity in question?

[Erose999]

22. He wasn't crying about the country, its people, or the problems that face them though. He was crying

when he was talking about himself. "Its MY party and I'll cry if I want to" me me me me me wah wah wah wah.



To hell with him Orange Glo.

[Goblinmonger]

24. Look, I don't like the guy. But, yes, he was crying because he

succeeded at something that is important to him for his own reasons. I don't begrudge him that.

He's going to suck at speaker because he's an asshat. But he can cry for his own success.

[Erose999]

37. His success is based on fraud and hate speak. Excuse me if I mock him for celebrating that.

[Goblinmonger]

45. Go ahead and mock him for that. Not my argument.

Just don't say he is somehow less of a man because he cried.

[lillypaddle]

51. Oh you liberals

You're all alike! :rofl:

[Iggo]

33. This is not the first time.

He's famous for this shit.

[Drale]

17. That was the fakest crying I've ever seen

we know one thing, when his political career is over, he doesn't have a career in film waiting for him.

[Goblinmonger]

20. I think it was drunk crying. Honest, but drunken. n/t

[truebrit71]

21. I cried yesterday, but that was because my grandmother died...

..not because i just realized i looked like an ommpa-loompa

[Goblinmonger]

26. Sorry to hear about your grandmother

My mom died several months ago and I still find I cry about it seemingly randomly.

He cried because he succeeded at something. And because he was drunk.

[truebrit71]

35. Thanks. I thik he cried because he realized he was actually going to have to do some work now...

...Getting up in the morning and reflexively shouting "NO!" to everything isn't going to cut it anymore..

[Kennah]

23. He cried for TARP!

The guy is a practiced crier.

[treestar]

25. Republicans are the macho ones

Think of what they'd have made of it had Pelosi ever cried.

It's the hypocrisy.

[Goblinmonger]

27. So point out the hypocrisy. I think the irony is rich, myself.

But don't make the comments they make just because they make them.

[uncommon]

28. Thank you.

[TwilightGardener]

29. If he had cried for the first time last night, and it was at an appropriate moment, you

MIGHT have a point. But come on, the man's nickname isn't Weeping Boner for nothing.

[TuxedoKat]

30. I don't fault him for that at all

actually it made him seem more human. I think he should have waited until after his speech to start celebrating though.

[handmade34]

31. thanks for saying this

I am fed up with the "man-up" stuff and cahonies and such... no wonder we have so many bullies in schools... they have awful role models...

crying is alright with me... Mr. Boehner's crying is not the problem... his political beliefs and attitude are

[Erose999]

32. Even better one for Boehner: Agent Orange.

[blondeatlast]

34. Suppose Speaker Pelosi teared up in public? We'd never hear the end of it. Sorry, I'm a big

weeper--but I'm not a leader, either.

[Goblinmonger]

43. So they beat up our fags so we should beat up theirs?

Makes no sense to me.

And why can't leader's cry. They should be emotionless robots? THAT makes for a better leader? I, personally, want someone more in touch with their humanity than that.

[mitchum]

36. I call his manliness into question because of his pear-shaped physique...

he obviously has his mother's hips

[Goblinmonger]

40. Well that's so much better, then.

:eyes:

[mitchum]

46. Thanks! He is built like a middle-aged woman...an orange one

[daa]

38. And if it was Pelosi that had cried?????????????? nt

[Goblinmonger]

41. So we should mock them since they mock us?

We should stomp on their head because they stomp on ours?

Doesn't seem all that progressive of an attitude to me.

[gmoney]

39. "There's no crying in baseball!"

[krawhitham]

42. He needs to but his man pants on

[seabeyond]

44. i think about everyone was being sarcastic, dont you.... nt

[Goblinmonger]

48. et tu? Of all people, I would expect you to support this.

So if they call him a pussy for this, would you then think it is bad? I guess I just really don't get you is where I'm at. I know you and I don't agree on a lot and I'm cool with that. But the vigor with which you attack gender issues when they apply to females would, in my opinion, spill over to this issue. And you wouldn't accept "they're being sarcastic" on those threads, imho.

I responded to this gem on another thread (I won't name the person but they have over 2K posts and have been here 3 years).

What a wuss is what I posted on my FB update last night. He didn't get the memo that "boys, don't cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy". And he's going to be my comic relief the next two years.

I did not grow up with and as an adult I don't surround myself with wimpy crybaby men. Maybe it's holding onto gender bias - but I don't care.

I don't care.

My Wednesday morning thought? He can be 'broken'. Any male that cries and weeps like that? He's WEAK. Just WEAK.

How the hell is a man's man like Anthony Wiener or Barney Frank, going to even look at this guy with the even the tiniest amount of respect.

Ahd he's been a cry baby before. This wasn't because he 'won' - it's because he's weak. It was just so over the top and well: Weak.

[seabeyond]

56. i was in the thread for all of 30 sec. i typed

cries like a boy. totally silly statement if it isnt obvious. those are the replies i saw. i saw no one making comments like that, but that alone is a stupid post.

didnt think people were really making statements like that.

i just watched my 15 yr old son work at keeping in the tears yesterday afternoon, and failing, telling me his heartbroken story. talk to him as if they werent there. took a couple years for him to understand, his tears are his emotion alone and no judgment on my part for them. he is allowed. he is safe with me to feel.

so, now i explained myself to you. no, i doubt you know me. and no, i dont mind a man/boy crying feeling his emotion. i see it no different from anyone else.

the sarcasm comes in the manly man premise the repugs live by yet they are no more manly men than anyone else and the absurdity of the mentality.

[Naturyl]

49. I agree, there's enough to attack Boner on without stooping to this

That being said, he has it coming for cultivating that kind of mentality himself within his macho-BS party.

[spanone]

53. it's part of his schtick...

[DevonRex]

54. He must always be drunk because every time I see him he's crying. nt

[DearAbby]

55. It was a drunken crying jag

accented by a vurp. It was a disgusting display. Had nothing to do with real emotion.



(Tim Allen's Vomit Burp = Vurp)

[Smashcut]

57. My issue with his crying is not that he's "unmanly," it's that he's a fucking phony

But your point is definitely well taken.

(From a gay guy)