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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:28 PM Original message |
For three years, we've been told that liberals are not "the base". |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. The party is against us |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Misplaced blame. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. What you said. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. GOP plan |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. You've left the reality based community. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Deleted message |
xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 10:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
37. obama does not have a liberal agenda no matter how many times you say it..nt |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. + infinity |
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ArcticFox (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
60. If Obama is progressive in any way |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
61. Obama was televised calling himself a "New" Democrat nt |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
51. Yes, I particularly enjoyed his appearance on Fox where he bragged about 'beating back' proposals... |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 11:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. No. Resigning the Patriot Act, Killing DADT repeal, etc. etc. was not progressive. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 07:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
30. The HCR Bill the WH negotiated had already traded away PO and script drug reimport - not progressive |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
45. Fail |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. +1,000. nt |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
46. No, not so liberal |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. LOL! |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. DLC blah blah blah |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. We are the party. We are democrats. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well, if we are the base why did we lose? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. The most liberal candidates didn't lose. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Oh, ok |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. By lying |
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bergie321 (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
49. By controlling |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. Use the socratic method against that. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
82. No, I got the last word |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
72. They prefer the GOP because they know the GOP. |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. The Latino community needs to be embraced as well. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Agree. And to be honest, I count the Latino community as part of the larger working-class base. |
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Gaedel (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
76. Latino |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
33. But they are a minority in the House now |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Grayson and Feingold didn't lose? And the Blue Dogs who lost were newbies in Republican districts |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
57. That argument is a bit off an chicken and egg problem |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. Right fucking on! We progressive liberals ARE the base! Time for you conserva-dems |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Time for them to get on the other bus where they belong. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Exactly that. |
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Gaedel (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
77. Like in 1972?? nt |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. Both progressives and centrists lost last night |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I disagree. I think we CAN draw conclusions. |
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The Green Manalishi (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
66. I think you have an interesting hypothesis |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. Gee, I thought "progressives" are the base. I'm really confused by this. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I don't disagree. I use the terms interchangeably. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. There is some distinction made by some on these boards which |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Well it's not a dirty word to me. I'm proud of it. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
11. Well said. |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
19. You are wrong... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Independents don't distinguish between the parties |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
67. Your analysis is wrong, MellowDem |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
20. Fantastic post, and so true. Inspired! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
23. kick,you said it well |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
24. I was interested to see that Progressive Caucus held firm while the Blue Dogs... |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Hopefully the right one, DM. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
69. The Party is now the Progressive Caucus. |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
80. Pretty clear message |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-10 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. Yes! |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
31. Ironic isn't it ? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
32. Look, I agree the dems have pissed on their base for far too long. But... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
70. Fact is that progressives and liberals now run the party. |
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Gaedel (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. So we are in the minority now |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-10 01:52 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. We need to educate Americans about progressive values. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
34. The professional class of the Dems (not to be confused with the "Professional Left") |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
35. JFK On What It Means To Be A Liberal (1960) |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
71. WillyT, It's worth quoting from that wonderful link you provided. Thanks. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Anytime JD, Anytime !!! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
38. Oh Liberals and Progressives are the base. Just not the whining ivory tower purists who spout crap |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
40. With the radicalization of the right |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
41. Yes. Have been for a long time. Rec'd. n/t |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
42. I am recommending this because it is spot on. However, |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
50. You do know that the largest percentage of voters in this country are independents right |
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ArcticFox (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. I was independent for years |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
73. So, what solutions did the Republicans offer? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
52. Big K & R! nt |
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N_E_1 for Tennis (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
53. Believe in this ... |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
55. Maybe you guys should have voted, then |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. We did vote. That's why the Blue Dogs went down |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. The point in the OP is that liberals voted Democratic. |
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ArcticFox (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
58. I don't feel like I have a place in the "Democratic" party |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
63. Truly great post. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
65. Excellent post |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
68. Thank you, Lyric. That was beautifully written |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
75. Too late to rec but I can kick! |
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DesertDiamond (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-10 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
78. Wow! So beautifully written and so full of wisdom! Thank you! |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-10 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
84. off to the top of the topic list with thee! |
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