A poll for reflexive second-guessing and finger-pointing

[jpgray]

Poll question: A poll for reflexive second-guessing and finger-pointing

[sharp_stick]

1. Other

a massive conspiracy fronted by KKKarl Rove including the BFEE, AIPAC and Grover Norquist to make me sad.

[Rhiannon12866]

2. I made countless phone calls for my congressman

And I have to say that it's the uninformed. :(

[jpgray]

3. That's my experience phone-banking and canvassing as well

Slickness goes way further than substance. Repetition of loud nonsense overwhelms the quiet and sensible.

[Rhiannon12866]

7. Exactly.

And maybe I should rephrase that to say the misinformed. My congressman's teabagger opponent was very successful in scaring senior citizens because my congressman voted for health care reform. What part of reform don't you understand?! But I can think of only a couple of instances when the voters I called actually let me explain how it really works. And my congressman has been very vocal and clear in explaining this, very publicly, in his speeches, his debates and his campaign ads. I just used his words. But most seem to prefer not to listen and just remain scared... :(

[jpgray]

11. Most attention gets paid to secondary, digestive voices

Nobody much listens anymore to the full views of a candidate.

[TexasObserver]

4. did not go far enough to the left!

[nyc 4 Biden]

5. The Dems did not communicate their accomplishments well enough to the public.

Also, the GOP was still angry about Obama being elected POTUS and nothing brings out voters like fear and anger.

[jpgray]

6. The flipside is that voters were too angry/fearful to pay any attention

And then there is another group which claims voters knew exactly what they got and despised it. The same data can lead people to argue so many different things....

[HughMoran]

8. Not voting

Worst push-poll I've ever seen.

[jpgray]

9. That's the point--much of the blame-slinging is poorly reasoned and simplistic

People will throw in with whatever accusations salve their beliefs.

[HughMoran]

10. True - but you should have given me a ridiculous reactionary choice

Actually, you did - I just didn't really get the point of this poll.

[kenny blankenship]

12. It's not really a question of far enuff/too far. The Dems let their conservadems DERAIL the agenda

and that makes them all look like incompetents, wild eyed hippies who can't be trusted with power, etc. etc. "The Dems can't rule their own house, let alone run the country..."

The agenda was middle of the road Reaganism. Save the banks, save capitalism from its own greed once again (like the S&Ls in Reagan's day), save it without really changing it, intervene on behalf of Detroit (Reagan intervened in free trade to aid Detroit) continue with endless war (rah team go!) and continue taxcuts. A health care "reform" that sticks with employer based private insurance and forces people to buy it isn't by any definition LEFT. That's the basic premise of Repuke health care policy from the time of Nixon and before, down through the days of Bob Dole to the candidacy of Mitt Romney.

No matter what was proposed as the Democratic Agenda or the Obama Agenda, Conservadems and Blew Dogs would have OPPOSED IT. They would have waylaid it in Congress, just as they did, and made a big fucking show of themselves repeatedly hacking it down to their size. All so they could say that they humbled the arrogant leftist elitist President and reined his "radical" agenda in with their homespun commonsense. They sacrificed our party's constituencies and principles and its FUTURE on the altar of their destructive "moderation".

If the 2008-2010 Democratic agenda is too far to the left now, it's time to buy rubber rafts and paddle to Vancouver or Le Havre. Because, in that case, it probably won't be too long before some segment of the population is singled out to go on an extended camping trip.

You have to remind all the hippie punchers and truncheon swinging authori-Dems that, just as a matter of the voting record, the people who actually got in the President's way and blew up the Hope and Change train were their own precious Blue Dogs and DLC conservadems, not liberals and progressives.

[Pyrzqxgl]

13. It's Bo Diddley's fault!

[jpgray]

17. I'm all for reckless finger-pointing

But you get 1,000 demerits for that remark.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. Centrism and the 3rd Way were a No Sale.

[customerserviceguy]

15. Went with other

I think that the process used to put something labeled HCR was so very distasteful to watch, that it poisoned the well for us. Scott Brown was a sign to slow down, even go back to the drawing board and come up with health reform that could get the votes that Social Security and Medicare got in their day, so as to not be a totally divisive issue. It was easy for the enemy to spin it as being rammed through Congress, without the promised transparency. It managed to piss off everybody.

Or, was that the other other?

[blondeatlast]

16. Other: it wasn't mine--y'all fight amongst yourselves. nt

[Naturyl]

18. I went with "massive and diverse human event"

But "ignorant Americans" was a close second. :)

[jpgray]

19. It's usually a solid runner-up when looking for an explanation

:D