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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:17 PM
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Lame duck session should be used for progressive legislation
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 03:25 PM by andym
Democrats still hold huge majorities in both houses. The current Congress should try to use the remaining lame duck session to pass progressive legislation, such as capping premiums in HCR (or even adding a public option), repealing DADT, passing Cap and Trade, Immigration reform, perhaps even a work bill (like the WPA) or a small business stimulus bill.

If reconciliation is needed to bypass a Senate filibuster, then use it. Of this will ruin the spirit of compromise with the GOP who will call "foul", but so what?

Why do it now, when they did nothing before?
Most of the blue dogs have nothing to lose that they haven't already lost. Everybody else realizes nothing of consequence can pass in the next two years, so any work has to be done now.

We can help by a lobbying push starting today.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:18 PM
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1. And every piece should be called a "Jobs Bill" regardless of what it is about.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:20 PM
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2. Good idea :) nt.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:25 PM
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6. Hahahaha!! Love it!
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:47 AM
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21. lol! +1
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:14 PM
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26. Brilliant!! Yes!!!
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:22 PM
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3. I really hate to say this,
but the house lame duck can't do a whole lot of anything before they pass some appropriations.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:24 PM
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4. A lot of the work is in the Senate anyways
for example, cap and trade....
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:24 PM
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5. recommend
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:25 PM
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7. Anyone who thinks this will actually happen is deluded. The House was marginally better than
the Senate, but producing progressive legislation?

Never gonna happen.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:27 PM
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10. We may be deluded, but it doesn't hurt to try and push for what we want. nt.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:04 AM
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19. "deluded" is, unfortunately, the proper term in this case.

never mind "the huge majorities in both houses". (huh? did I miss something?)

Listen to Mr. President himself if in any doubt/confusion as to what his plan for the next couple of years re. "working together with the Rebulicans" is.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:26 PM
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8.  You mean like a new AWB? n/t
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:27 PM
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9. But won't be.
And if Reid is retained as Leader for the next Congress it will be a clear signal that they plan to change nothing about their approach in the Senate.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:28 PM
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11. Aren't there hundreds of pieces of legislation already passed by the house
and bogged in the Senate? PASS THEM as many as you can. END THE FILIBUSTER
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:09 PM
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12. END THE FILIBUSTER. And leave the rule there for the repubs ... brilliant Sherlock. (nt)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:10 PM
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13. We still have the Senate. nt
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:10 AM
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22. But you can't change the rules back and forth at will (nt)
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:56 PM
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16. Fix it then
lower the number required for cloture. And or Make them actually filibuster, America should know the reasons they are filibustering. The Rule needs changed.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:19 AM
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17. Apparently they need 2/3 of the Senate to change the rules during a session of congress
But only a simple majority at the beginning of a session. So they can't change the filibuster rule until next year.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:11 AM
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23. Agreed. But whatever we change, we also have to live with. (nt)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:11 PM
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14. Yep. nt
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rainlillie Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:11 PM
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15. ITA!
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:22 AM
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18. Agree: Disclose Act and fix bankruptcy - those are urgent.
They need to get everything through that they possibly can, any way they can. This is the last chance for a while.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:15 AM
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20. It's not going to happen because we don't control the senate. Kirk is the first of the new
senators to be sworn in. Some of the loser blue dogs won't back progressive legislation either because they have dreams of running again.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:16 AM
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24. If you think Blue Dogs have nothing to lose then you don't understand Blue Dogs
They are corporate slaves.. They are owned by their masters and if they want to be taken care of for the rest of their lives by their masters they must do their master's bidding until the very end.. No one expects to be in
congress forever, it is now about how feathered their beds will be from here on out..
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:46 PM
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25. It will be interesting to track what they do afterwards
Isn't there a site that monitors this?
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:30 PM
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27. Michael Moore agrees
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