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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 09:35 PM
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How the Left Can Win
Some of today’s progressives hold a counterintuitive belief that voting for Barack Obama was all they should have to do. They fancy themselves revolutionaries, yet they want a turnkey movement to which they can hitch their wagons with somebody else doing all the work. This dynamic is present on every progressive website I visit. Twenty months out and people are having a whine and cheese party about how Obama is disrespecting them. Can you imagine what it would be like had they lost?

There are two things they don’t understand; winning and organizing, however they do a damn fine job of pissing and moaning. I’m an old man of 56, but I see so many opportunities on the left for a young organizer willing to work that it’s absolutely crazy. There’s an entire generation of Millennials just begging to be harvested and formed into a constituency for a leader not sitting at home consumed with self pity. Maybe they should take a page out of Karl Rove’s playbook. It begs the question, did these whiners think they weren’t going to have to work for it?


I was just out of the military in 1977, and there wasn’t a Republican to be found on any college campus in the country. Conservatives were openly mocked and ridiculed by us pot smoking hippies, so no one under 25 would admit to being a Republican. When Rove seized power of the Young College Republicans in early 1980 there were only 20 chapters left in the entire United States. (Let that sink in for a moment.) By the end of 1980 there was over 1000 chapters, and they had helped get Ronald Reagan elected president.

While they involved themselves in national elections, they concentrated at the state and local level, getting as many state legislators and even city councilmen elected as possible. They built a strong foundation, grooming candidates to ascend to national office and getting people familiar with their message. A central thesis of a college paper I wrote was for Republicans to return the power they needed to gain control of the majority of state legislatures. By 1990 they had done so and could significantly gerrymander congressional districts in their favor.

more . . . http://itbegsthequestion.com/?p=1800#more-1800
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 09:45 PM
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1. Rove did not do it with hard work.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 09:46 PM by RandomThoughts
He did it with manipulations and deceptions.

I went to many churches in my area that in 2000 were preaching Bush. I then learned they were being taught by think tanks that were changing what was taught in church. They taught them that Christianity was about gays and abortion. Even if those concepts are not mentioned much in the Gospels, except by interpretation.

It was not hard work, it was Machiavellianism, deceptive secret work, and much of it was money work, people paying others to do what they are told.

I don't, nor should anyone try to give respect to Roves actions, they are what they are and nothing more, and those that know what he is do not support his actions.

Hence why he uses deception and secrecy.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:59 AM
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6. His soldiers worked hard
Their ground game is impressive. Has been since Goldwater.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 09:47 PM
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 09:51 PM
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3. Just the other night Laura Ingram, Cons.Radio, was giving a speech
on C-Span. She ended her speech by saying, I would not
like to thank Pres. Obama. That community organizing really
works. Then, she reminded any Conservative Community Organizers
that on Nov. 3, we start working on 2012. Conservatives
used to joke , being sarcastic about Obama's work as Community
Organizer. Apparently they studied it and are organizing
in every state. That movement never stops.

We need to something to revive our party and get people active
again. There are more Registered Democrats than Republicans.
If they voted in such numbers, we would win just about every
election. In this past election 40% Americans voted. All
these changes are bering made by segment of society.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:09 PM
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4. Even the Devil had to work his way up in the organization. So it is with Rove and all operatives,
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 10:12 PM by leveymg
Right and Left.

Political parties don't build themselves. The only question is, is the Democratic Party still worth taking over? Everyone has to answer that one for him/herself. Maybe, the Dems minus all those those Blue Dogs will be more responsive to our message - maybe.

This could be an opportunity for the Left, just as the crushing GOP defeat of 2008 was seized by the Tea Partyers.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 11:05 PM
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5. kewl blog
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