Rand Paul could be a blessing in disguise, let's make use of his extremism!

[DaveinJapan]

So, he wants deficit reduction. Let's hold him to it. If he filibusters the Bush tax cuts, it will save trillions.

Can't we use this to our advantage? He has made broad promises, and he has the power to do some major damage...so can't we FLOOD his office with demands that he keep his promise and filibuster the renewal of the tax cuts?

Yes, I know it hurts, and is wrong, but this is shields-up time for the Democratic effort if there ever was one! Either he stays true to his word, or we go after him tooth and nail for breaking his promises.

He's the key...and then we go after all of his ilk accordingly...

When America realizes that it's the REPUBLICANS who are raising taxes (and we'll let them know loud and fucking clear), THEN we might have something to work with in 2012.

Who's ready to REALLY go grass-roots on these mother fuckers?

And how can we best accomplish it?

[BlueGirlRedState]

1. There we go again....

... all that positive thinking, lemons into lemonade....

Dusting ourselves off and getting after it.

After a gloomy day, the sun is shining here and I think we're going to be alright.

[elleng]

12. We will be OK, but it will take a while.

And keep in mind that little paul doesn't have very much power (tho there are a few 'percs,' even for newbie sens.)

[LiberalCatholic]

15. I see it a little different

if they actually do what they say they will people will get pi@@ed. I think that putting pressure on him to follow his inner voice will bring chaos to the Republican party. I also think that they should get a lot of pressure to fix the economy and cut the budget. Then when they don't we need to (here's the hard part for Dem leadership) go on the offensive with their record.

[HereSince1628]

2. The tea-partiers think in terms of kitchen table economics

Which are not going to work for government.

At the Kitchen Table of a working class person:
Tax is a bill. Tax cuts leave you with more money, you could (but probably won't) pay off some credit card debt.


For Government:
Taxes is income. Cutting taxes reduces revenue and leaves the gov't with nothing to use to pay down debt.

[BeFree]

3. Good idea

If Rand can't do it, nobody can.

He is so special.... he can, single handily, save our country from the deficits.

So what if he ends up sacrificing himself? We have soldiers that do that everyday, in a bigger way.

He won't do it tho,,,, he's a chicken.

[Green_Lantern]

20. he can stop up debate anonymously though...

By putting holds on it.

[emulatorloo]

4. Pretty sure I saw an interview with him election night "Let's not punish the Rich People"

I beleive he's pushing the tax cuts for wealthy Americans.

[DaveinJapan]

5. Then he's stuck in hypocrisy of the highest order, isn't he?

Let's not punish the rich...let's kill the debt.

Which one will he decide is more important.

The point of forcing him to filibuster the WHOLE THING though, is NOT to allow him the "let's not bother the rich!" meme, but instead force the fucker to be honest on one side OR the other, not fucking both!

That's what THEY have gotten away with for way too long!

[Green_Lantern]

22. I'm not sure you get Paul...

He is a Libertarian who doesn't support any income tax so I doubt he'd be shy about supporting the Bush tax cuts.

[Lil Missy]

6. He is FOR tax cuts for the rich,

[DaveinJapan]

7. He is also FOR debt reduction. nt

[Lil Missy]

8. The OP is about TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH. And he doesn't care about the added debt when it's

FOR TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH.

[DaveinJapan]

9. No, the OP is about the Bush tax cuts, in its' entirety...

Let's go all out and oppose the whole fucking thing. That's my point.

And forcing Paul and others to stand by their "reduce the deficit at all costs" mantra, is the first step.

Force them to come clean, OR force them to fight...in any case, force them into uncomfortable positions every step of the way (they're damned if them do (by the teapartiers), and damned if they don't (by the voters, and the mainstream) either way).

[goforit]

10. And you don't mind if the White hooded Rand Paul KKK gets their way?

[DaveinJapan]

11. Gets their way how? By killing the Bush tax cuts?

I would LOVE it.

It would put the Republicans in stark contrast to the Democrats and lead the way to a quick return of the House, by forcing the Republicans into being the "raising taxes" folks, while at the same time resetting the playing field AND neutering the whole Tea Party scam.

I am all for it.

[kctim]

13. Waste of time

Paul and those who vote for him agree that you reduce the deficit by cutting spending, waste and abuse. That the less government spends, the lower taxes will need to be.
It's a purely limited government, personal responsibility and lower taxes, Constitutional mindset.

[DaveinJapan]

14. So by this I can assume you are pro-Rand Paul or something?

My point is to use his fanaticism against him. You don't think him supporting a three trillion dollar program can't be used against him?

Look at how the Republicans frame things, and then think about why they win so handily so often.

[kctim]

18. Facts are always better than assumptions

You are claiming he supports the higher defict if he does not address the solution how YOU think he should, and that won't work. Paul and his supporters answer to the problem is different than yours.
How can it be used against him when he won on limiting govt, lowering taxes and reducing debt?

As a moderate Democrat, I have looked at how Republicans frame things and I see why that leads to them winning so often.

[Green_Lantern]

19. I agree which means Dems should be glad to have Paul..

He'll specifically come out and fight against Medicare which is great for us. Paul can bring it on and see how fast his constituents turn on him and the GOP.

[kctim]

23. Now THAT will be something to use against him

[brentspeak]

16. Paul's win in Kentucky shows that the GOP can win big in the South without the fundie factor

Kentucky voters happily sent to the Senate someone who is basically a closet atheist. Meanwhile, Jack Conway, who KY voters rejected, is much more of the traditional Southern Christian family values type. If this keeps up, the Democratic leadership can hardly rely on always winning the votes of people who are afraid of a fundie-run government.

[OneGrassRoot]

17. Cutting the defense budget is something he's stated he's for previously...

I'm all for holding him to that.

:)

[Better Believe It]

21. He will make other Republicans almost look reasonable. That might be the role

most Republican politicians want him to play in their media show.