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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:39 AM
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The Rude Pundit: Time for the Next Round of This Fight (Part 1: The Lame Duck Can Still Fly)
Fuck despair. The 2012 fight starts now. Time to learn from our mistakes, lick our wounds, change the sheets, clean up our mess, and get back in this quickly. Time's a-wastin' before the crazies arrive and attempt to shutdown the government, defund the health care bill, and wreck the economy. It's war. It has been a war. Act like it.

At his press conference, Barack Obama was too conciliatory, too willing to allow the lie-filled narrative of his supposed intransigence, the myth of his unwillingness to compromise, to exist. Look at what Bill Clinton said in 1994: "But to those who would use this election to turn us back, let me say this: I will do all in my power to keep anyone from jeopardizing this economic recovery by taking us back to the policies that failed us before...There is too much at stake for our children and our future to do anything else." It was a challenge to the new Congress, a shot over Gingrich's bow, and a reassurance to everyone who voted for him two years before that he didn't forget how he got there and that he was still there. Shit, Reagan essentially said, "Yeah, yeah, whatever, kiss my ass" when he lost the House in 1982.

What did Obama offer? "I’m not so naïve as to think that everybody will put politics aside until then, but I do hope to make progress on the very serious problems facing us right now. And that’s going to require all of us, including me, to work harder at building consensus." And, as we know, "building consensus" and "compromise" means "give Republicans everything they want and you get nothing." Meanwhile, John Boehner was telling the President to start sucking and don't neglect the balls.

So it's time to run the table during the lame duck session. Right now, conservatives are shitting themselves over what can happen during the next two months of the Congress-That-Has-Nothing-To-Lose, even making a idiotic video featuring some redneck asshole you might remember from some ad shooting a man in a duck costume, which has more resonances of Dick Cheney than actual hunting. They want the Democrats to pledge to just run out the clock and wait for the new Congress to act on anything. Because, you know, they'd act just as honorably. Oh, wait, that's right. The impeachment of Bill Clinton happened during a lame duck session. So, really, the proper response is, "No, you need to blow us, Boehner and McConnell."

Democrats need to find that backbone that keeps running away and understand that they actually can accomplish a number of things that will shore up the progressive base for the next couple of years. It's so fucking easy. Listen to Nancy Pelosi (no, really - she was on the right track the last two years; Reid and Obama had it wrong), and 2012 will be different. Pass a bunch of those bills that have come out of the House. Fuck some shit up before you're out. The worst thing that Democrats can do is to play nice until 2011, hoping that it will lay some kind of groundwork for cooperation and decency in the future. That's like thinking that if you leave a crack whore alone with your pants, she won't steal your wallet. And your pants.

1. The absolute easiest thing you can do: Get rid of Don't Ask Don't Tell. Do this and all those gay votes that went away will come home, and the non-gay supporters will be able to point to a concrete promise kept.

2. There's gonna be tax cuts of some sort, even though there shouldn't be. Use reconciliation to pass middle class tax cuts. Leave the tax cuts for the wealthy for the new Congress so that the incoming House is put in the position of having to vote for rich people to get more money.

3. And attach everything else you want to the reconciliation tax bill: energy legislation, unemployment benefits extension, whatever. The rules allow it. The Republicans will howl like dogs who got kicked in the anus, but, again, again, again, Democrats need to treat Republicans like the dishonorable fuckers they are.

4. Pass the Disclose Act. The bullshit excuse Republicans used for opposing it was that it was an election year stunt. Okay, it's not an election anymore. Let's get a little of the anonymous corporate money out of the process. If the bill is filibustered, make them own it and answer for it for the next two years. (This is perhaps the most naively optimistic part of a generally naively optimistic post here.)

As the Rude Pundit writes this, Mitch McConnell, who, it should be noted, is the fucking minority leader, is talking as if he is in charge now, as if he runs the Senate. And why the fuck not, since he essentially did for the last couple of years? Use the next couple of months, dear, defeated Democrats, to walk away with some dignity and not allow yourselves to be whipped out of town by the rats and the bullies.

Tomorrow: Defeat their 2012 strategy now.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:43 AM
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1. Wish I could rec this 1000 times. n/t
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:43 AM
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2. "Treat Republicans like the dishonorable fuckers they are." AMEN! KNR
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:02 PM
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18. Absitively, posolutely, splendiferous idea! n/t
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 07:02 PM by theaocp
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:50 AM
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3. And if this isn't done, we have to wonder why...
Are Democrats just cowards? Are they corporate Manchurian candidates? Are they just plain dumb? Are they masochists?

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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:56 AM
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4. Good advice
naively optimistic or not. I'd tell him the same thing if he asked. Kick & REcommend :kick: :kick:
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:03 AM
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5. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they can use reconciliation again
because they already used it earlier this year to pass HCR. I doubt they could get 60 votes in the Senate for any of those things, but they should try. #4 is particularly important.

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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:05 AM
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6. Pelosi might have been on the right track compared to Reid and Obama
but she's the one who lost her leadership position. I suspect, given that, that Obama won't take the same message from this election that the Rudy Pundit did.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:30 AM
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7. K & R
:thumbsup:
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:31 PM
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8. K&R
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 01:24 PM
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9. Another proud K&R for an amazing action plan!
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 01:28 PM
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10. Awesome!
He gets it right again!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 01:48 PM
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11. K&R. (nt)
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:07 PM
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12. K&R
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 04:05 PM
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13. Spot on. It should be "pass these, or get an actual Republican filibuster until the new Congress"
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 04:09 PM by muriel_volestrangler
We want to see the Republicans blocking a bill to raise high earning taxes while letting the middle earners keep their cuts, or the repeal of DADT (there's strong public support for the repeal - I don't know why the Democrats didn't push it far earlier); or get those passed.

I'm not sure if attaching energy legislation to a tax bill is a good idea, though - as much as I'd like something passed, I get the impression that it doesn't have the widespread public support some of the other stuff does. This is the time for popular legislation; either it passes, or it makes the Republican senators look bad right now.

And 'actual filibuster' means "a Republican Senator having to come to Congress every hour to call another vote, through the night". Not a 'threat' of it.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 04:07 PM
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14. First, somebody has to explain to Mr. Obama
what and where the balls are.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:57 PM
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15. kick
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:30 PM
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16. And get the Hell out of Iraqistan.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:31 PM
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17. I sent him an email today and I hope he can find something
about it. I told him that McConnell was either drummed out or asked to resign from the military because he was caught with his hands in the pants of a fellow service man. I don't know how long ago but he looks as old as I am so it was probably during or after the Korean War. I am writing every website that has an email address and see if they could check. I also email chinless and asked him why he was drummed out or resigned from the military. I said I'd like to know. Damn I hope this gets around. Maybe no one can find out why but the constant barrage of questions about it I hope embarrass the hell out of him.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 08:07 AM
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39. Can you remember where you heard/read this?
If true, wow wow. I've always suspected him, but then I've always suspected KKKarl Rove too.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:14 PM
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19. love love LOVE me some Rude Pundit
that kicked dog imagery had me laid out dead for 2 minutes.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:34 PM
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20. AND be sure to read the article on the link below about what Obama can do without the Congress
Obama Can Pursue Ambitious Agenda Without Congress's Help
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/03/obama-can-pursue-busy-age_n_778583.html


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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:44 PM
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21. This guy gets it and he thinks like I do!
'If the bill is filibustered, make them own it.' And that could go for all bills.
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The Uncola Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:48 PM
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22. If only.
But we all know the spineless wastes of oxygen won't do anything of value.

:grr:
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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:09 PM
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23. Obama needs the Rude One as an advisor. Now. k/r n/t
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:21 PM
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24. took the words right out of my mouth
Uh..... keypad.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:52 PM
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25. knr
:kick:
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:07 AM
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26. Damn right!
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:27 AM
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27. Reconciliation for middle-class tax cuts. Disclose Act. BRILLIANT! But will Reid
go along. IMO it's essential to kick Reid to the curb if he won't get tough with Republicans NOW.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:28 AM
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31. And give Grayson(D-FL) at least 60 hrs of floor time to INVEIGH against R corruption,
explaining just why the Disclose Act and Reconciliation are necessary theft-prevention measures before the barbarians take over.

Let him go out with a bang, naming names about quid-pro-quo "contributions" to incoming Republican leaders, such as

Joe "BP: I Apalogize" Barton (R-TX), probable chair of the House Energy Committee, all-time champion of oil-company largesse

IMO it would be a WASTE of an unequalled spokesperson with nothing left to lose not to let Grayson stun the media with all-the-way-down populist exposure of incoming corporate corruption.

And let retiring Byron Dorgan (D-ND) perform the same role on the Senate side. Remember, he predited years in advance that middle-of-the-night derivatives deregulation under Dubya ultimately would lead to huge bank and insurance bailouts.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:31 AM
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28. Great! I wish I could believe that Obama and Congress would read and heed this post.
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:40 AM
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29. Good, logical, and sensible....
which means that congress will never do it.:banghead:
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:24 AM
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30. k&r!
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:45 AM
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32. And for heaven sakes
Quit inviting Repubs over to the White House. They belong in the back seat of the car, remember?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:35 AM
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33. He isn't just rude
He's right.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:35 AM
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34. Free Barack! To arms, Democrats! Use this time wisely and pass what you can! No adjournment!
But, they won't do much of anything. Pathetic lot of simps.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:47 AM
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35. It would be a thing of beauty. k + r
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:57 AM
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36. The Rude Pundit is right on!
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urgk Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:07 AM
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37. What about leaving the Repub.s a congressional hearing on torture...with W testifying? n/t
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:53 AM
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38. Too bad the Rude one is not Obama's chief of staff. I fear we are in for more
Lameness from the admin and it's going to be really hard to watch. I wish it were otherwise, but I'm convinced at thismpoint that Obama is just not ever going to fight back. He doesn't realize that civility is already dead and rescucitation efforts are futile.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 08:18 AM
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40. Friday morning kick...
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:11 AM
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41. I think Michael Moore had
some good ideas....send the bills passed from the House to the Senate now. Laws against violence on elders, for example.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:16 AM
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42. naively optimistic, indeed.
the only thing that has to happen under current congressional circumstances is for senate dems to vote as a block against every piece of shit bill that comes out of the house, and/or filibuster.

the problem is that there will always be some dem/s who won't hold ground and will vote with the repubs. that is the plan, to continue to try to look progressive but in the end allow reactionary legislation to pass.

thus was it ever.

obama and the dems failed and will fail again, and again. are you not yet embarrassed to support them?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:21 AM
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43. These lame ducks better SOAR, or they will suffer the consequences..in untold ways.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 09:23 AM by BrklynLiberal
The harsh, distasteful, yet painfully accurate truth.....

" And, as we know, "building consensus" and "compromise" means "give Republicans everything they want and you get nothing." Meanwhile, John Boehner was telling the President to start sucking and don't neglect the balls."



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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:24 AM
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44. RIOT ON!
Kick these CONs in the ass while we can. Make them pass more legislation before the new congress gets in, and that will be more things for those bass turds to try to repeal. The only thing that they have to do is to craft their messages better than they have been doing.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:50 AM
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45. Dems in leadership are too damn nice - it's time to get ruthless
"It's war. It has been a war. Act like it."
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:52 PM
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46. And REMOVE Steny Hoyer from the leadership. This is no time for moderation and no time
to enrage African-American Democrats by mindlessly demoting James Clyburn (D-SC). Hoyer has some NERVE to campaign for Nancy Pelosi's job or to challenge the incumbent Whip, who's number 3 on the most successful House leadership team in memory.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:26 PM
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47. kick
:kick:
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