The Right is doing to Obama what they did to Carter

[DainBramaged]

I remember how they skewered the Carter administration, and I remember all of the mistakes, bad judgement, poor cabinet picks, and failures to respond to the Rights's message machine, which hd only TV and newspaper back then. There wan't talk radio, the internets, cell phones. On election night, yesterday, and last night, EVERY Republican was on the Frank Luntz message, "we're listening to the American people". Even the Washington insiders, like Bonner who the media DIDN'T call as an insider, claimed the boogie man 'Washington' meaning Obama, wasn't listening.

And ya know, he still isn't. Ed Schultz was right, unless he responds from a position of strength, unless he calls the Right on the bullshit, we're going to get another generation of Republican rule and destruction in 2012. He HAS to stop giving in. WE are his people, and WE want him to stop caving to the Right.


I hope I am taking a dirt nap by the time that takeover happens.


Fight back. Call your representatives. Tell them you are as mad as hell and aren't going to take it anymore. They HAVE to have a coherent message or else we as a party are done.


Have a nice day. Except the urecingcrew, who deserves to reap what they sow.

[Cleita]

1. Unfortunately, Obama is letting them do it to him.n/t

[donheld]

22. He seems to be unable or unwilling to fight back.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. Goddamn right!

Recommended.

[YOY]

3. It's their nature...

Although some folks may feel that dressing like this may cause them to change that nature...

[HopeHoops]

4. Great presidents are shunned because they care more about the country than their political future.

Shitheads like Reagan, Poppy, and the shrub just care about themselves and their corporate sponsors.

[Sal Minella]

5. That's what I keep thinking.

When somebody is leading a bunch of people, trying to help them accomplish something, he shouldn't have to be worrying about whether or not any of those people are going to shoot him in the back.

How can a person "lead" when he doesn't dare turn his back on those who are supposedly "following?"

[HopeHoops]

6. You can ask Abe about that one.

Carter was just concerned about the country (and still is - and the world as a whole for that matter). Obama is the same sort of president. If he only has one term, so be it. I'll be happy that he had the opportunity to serve us for four years, just as Carter did before "don't worry, be happy" Raygun lied his way into office. I hope he gets a second term and will fight to see that he does, but either way I'm just glad that he had this one.

[daa]

7. Totally disagree

Carter had great economic performance compared to W? and the rest. Carter pushed UNIVERSAL care, not some crappy insurance reform. Carter was against war, not keeping Guantanamo open, not expanding the war in Afghanistan. Obama is no Carter and I live in Georgia. Carter got screwed by the hostage crisis and the oil price quadrupling. Carter's fate was sealed and Obama made his fate.

[DainBramaged]

8. "Carter got screwed by the hostage crisis "

and the backroom deals made by Poppy Bush to ensure a Republican victory.


To this day, I wonder if that was a total coup by the Republicans, to take back the White House.

:patriot: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[HopeHoops]

12. You got that right - any shock that Iran released them right after Raygun was elected?

That was a done deal months in advance and the hostages suffered because of it.

[DainBramaged]

13. America suffered for 25 years afterwards......

[HopeHoops]

14. The GOP isn't "conservative". I'm a conservative. They're fuckwads.

All they care about is being in power and bending over for their corporate sponsors (like China).

[laughingliberal]

16. 25? 30 and counting, AFAICS. nt

[Mikeystyle]

9. Obama pushed through the biggest legislative agenda since FDR---but didn't talk about it

President Obama could bend time and space, invent cold fusion and walk on water to please his base, but few people would know about it because he hasn’t done the job of spreading the word.

He hasn’t done what Bill Clinton and others have done with key legislation—spend time going around the country to promote different aspects of a plan, even weeks after it was passed into law.

It’s as if he’s trying to keep his accomplishments to himself—that’s what he needs to change.

http://www.thechicagodope.com/2010/11/03/obama-vows-to-keep-accomplishments-to-himself/

[donco6]

15. Obviously, its INVISIBLE multi-dimensional chess Obama's been playing.

Good to know. It explains everything.

(Thanks friends)

[laughingliberal]

17. ...

:rofl:

[donco6]

18. I only wish I'd thought of it! LOL! n/t

[YOY]

20. You beautiful bastard, you!

n/t

[Foo Fighter]

26. Right there, that's Obama's problem.

He does all these incredibly great things for the American people but he keeps them entirely secret so no one knows about them.

Personally, when he does something good, I'd like to know.

[YOY]

29. Exactly! Like the 15th dimensional walk-on-water chesstastic act of 2009!

Nobody knows about that one!!!

[KT2000]

10. That's right

He cannot repsond with intellectual policy wonk statements. It does not work. Carter was right on so many things but after the RW got through with him he could not move his agenda - to say nothing of a Democratic House that treated him like crap.

[MrScorpio]

11. Well, we're giving the Right a lot of ammo right on this site

As well as a lot of the so-called left blogosphere.

Guess what, neither side is happy with him.

[laughingliberal]

23. Yeah, Any day now Boner will be on Fox saying how Obama compromises too much with the right.

:wtf:

[The Uncola]

30. Bull squat.

His lack of a spine and testicles are the source of his failure, not those of us he and his surrogates marginalized, refused to listen to, and insulted as he steadfastly marched to the right. He handed the Regressives all of the ammo they could ever need by being a wimp.

[ThatsMyBarack]

19. "I hope I am taking a dirt nap by the time that takeover happens."

Me, too.

[DainBramaged]

21. I don't look at it with as much morbidity as I used to

if the Reich-wing is going to again dominate Politics, those of us who ARE the working poor and are seniors have no comfortable future ahead. What am I going to do for a job when I hit 70 and don't have the mobility I still retain?

[Naturyl]

24. K&R, you're right.

This is definitely Carter all over again.

And Obama is making the same mistakes Carter did - the mistakes that got us Saint Ronnie.

[spanone]

25. very much so.

[Rhiannon12866]

27. K&R! Someone said this on MSNBC the other day and I snapped to attention...

President Carter is a hero of mine (and my usual avatar, as you know ;) ) and you are absolutely right. At least there's still time for Obama, so we need to do all we can, now. Jimmy Carter's still out there making the world a better place, but we need someone like him as president. The Barack Obama whom we elected in 2008 would be ideal... :fistbump:

[PBass]

28. It's not just the Right, there is resistance in the Democratic party too.

There wasn't enough discipline IMO, especially in the Senate. It was like the 'liberal' Dem Senators took turns undercutting the Obama agenda on different bills, so that no one Senator could be accused of being the bad guy. "Well, he voted against this good bill, but on other issues he is usually very good!" (My senator is Schumer and he has done this a few times).

Same thing happened to Carter, he came in with a lot of good ideas IMO, and he ran into a wall, as far as cooperation... as far as I remember (just a teenager back then).

[bullwinkle428]

31. L. O'Donnell & M. Moore pointed out that they did the same thing to Clinton as well,

and Clinton's amazing political chops allowed him to come back from disaster. He wasn't sure if Obama had that in him or not...

[scheming daemons]

32. I would argue that the LEFT is doing to Obama what they did to Carter

Especially if they primary him (a la Kennedy in '80).


Carter lost because the left bloodied him up in the primaries.

[tomp]

34. whoever is running has to earn support.

it doesn't come with -D, at least not from me.

and if what you're saying about carter and the left is true, did the democratic leadership move left to prevent it in the future? no, they moved right.

and even if what you're saying is true, why should we not primary a president whose performance we do not like?

primaries are for choosing a direction. i don't like obama's direction.

problem with primarying a sitting president is that he is usually strong enough to resist it, but uses up too many resources and then looks bad in the general.

obama will have to consider all the potentialities arising from his record. if it's too hard for him to accomodate the left, perhaps he should simply not run.

we'll see what obama does over the next two years, but if it's more of the same, and if the midterms are any indication, we're going to have a republican president in 2012.

i don't owe one goddamned thing to barack obama or the democratic party, and i don't like how the party has acted over my entire lifetime, and i don't think they have
effectively fought the republican party to the extent where it makes any difference.

obama and the democrats need to be accountable.

[NJmaverick]

33. Worse the many on the left who should be stopping them

have instead sat back and let it happen or worse joined with them.

[GoCubsGo]

35. You beat me to it.

Just look at all of the people here calling for a primary against him--just like Ted Kennedy did to Carter. And, if it comes to pass, it will have the same results as it did in 1980.