‘Damn right’ I personally ordered waterboarding: Bush

[MissHoneychurch]

President George W. Bush admits for the first time in his new memoir that he personally approved the use of waterboarding, a technique in which an interrogator simulates drowning on a suspect. The method, which most describe as torture, has since been banned by the Justice Department.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/damn-right-personally-ordered-waterboarding-bush/

[deminks]

1. I want to know if he watched.

and did he watch with others. And how many times he watched. And I want this to come out in his trial at the Hague.

[Canuckistanian]

2. Or did he have movies made?

Like Hitler did? (Godwin be damned)

[JuniperLea]

3. I wonder if he and Cheney watched together...

And I wonder who was aroused the most... :puke:

[Fire Walk With Me]

29. Yep; it's porn to people like them.

[RZM]

6. Bush isn't going to the Hague

There's plenty of reasons why, but the biggest is that Dems will never, ever push for it or support it because 1) many Dems (probably most) wouldn't agree with it in the first place, and 2) it would be a political disaster for them of biblical proportions

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. I wonder if the rest of the nations are just watching and waiting for

the US to implode from its civil war, and then they will come in and demand justice.

[RZM]

12. I don't think Bush is a big topic of conversation in most places abroad

Probably he's usually mentioned less than he is here, which isn't much nowadays. He'll get some attention with the book thing, but that will die down pretty quickly. I can't speak for international justice types, but of course there's more than enough stuff going around at the moment to keep their hands full.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. Oh, the people of Afghan and Iraq and their allies have forgiven him?

Like Rummy forgave Sadaam?

[RZM]

15. I should have excepted those countries in the post

I actually meant to, believe it or not :). Though I have no information on how much Bush is mentioned in Afghanistan and Iraq -- maybe it's not a whole lot, maybe it is. I don't know. As time passes, people there will probably come to associate the wars with Obama just as much as they do Bush, especially in Afghanistan.

[JuniperLea]

33. I've had that thought as well...

He didn't just screw us, he screwed the world... some more than others.

[Taverner]

30. And KKKarl "Stinkfist" Rove has stuff on many Dems

Part of the reason Obama picked up more endorsements (in my tinfoil-addled mind) is that no one had anything on him.

[kestrel91316]

7. Watched? Hell, he probably watched and jerked off at the same time.

[AtomicKitten]

4. And he appears to have gotten away with it.

The most profound disappointment I feel is that BushCo was not prosecuted for war crimes. IMO we should opt back into the ICC and let them do what needs to be done.

[bobbolink]

5. He's damned lucky Obama is in power and excusing him for breaking international laws.

Hopefully, other countries will take his confessions seriously, and put him where he belongs.

TO. THE. HAGUE.

[arbusto_baboso]

8. NOW can we prosecute him?

Or at least bundle him up and forcibly put him on a plane to The Hague?

[Scurrilous]

9. K & R

:thumbsup:

[we can do it]

11. Of Course He Did - Meanwhile Obama DOES NOTHING

let the war criminals be, hug the repubs, keep the wars going. HOPE MY ASS

[HughBeaumont]

14. Serial Killer Kid.

Piece of shit.

Indict. Imprison. This bastard broke the law in addition to destroying three nations. Screw looking forward.

[otohara]

16. What About All Those Denials

could it be, we were lied to?

[siligut]

17. He believes torture can save lives.

His book, Decision Points 'cuz he makes the decisions. He actually tells himself that he was the decisioner. That is what everyone around him was telling him, he's the great big decision maker.

[WinkyDink]

21. His should be so saved.

[TwilightGardener]

18. Nice to get it on record, I guess.

[Jack Rabbit]

19. INTERPOL should know where he is

[TheKentuckian]

20. Hey Holder, waterboarding is a serious crime. Murder, rape, arson, treason, kidnapping level serious

Do your job or be complicit in such crimes.

Dick Cheney has repeatedly gone on television and bragged about his eager participation, there is no lack of evidence nor certainty of a crime. Waterboarding earns serious jail time or even a death sentence in America or when Americans are involved, till now. Till the law no longer applied to some under your watch.

Ronald Reagan's administration prosecuted a US sheriff for the crime of waterboarding.

Mr Holder, for crying out loud I heard a man was arrested for the crime of waterboarding in the last week!

Sir, for the love that is good and green on our blue Earth this must be dealt with or you and President Obama declare the United States of America worse than a banana republic.
On your watch, Sir! This is 100% on your watch! You support and absolve these most heinous of pridefully admitted high crimes against humanity and the United States of America.

Do you yourself have even an iota of shame not honor???? Do you work for a honorable man?

This is wrong and absolves and promotes wrong.

[Octafish]

22. Guy must have a Get Out of Supermax Free Card.

After his trial for treason, the little warmonger turd from Crawford's next stop: The Hague.

[felix_numinous]

23. We should hold a citizens' public trial in absentia

and condemn all the Bush criminals, for the whole country to see.

[MisterP]

27. that would mean going against the Leadership: therefore, even if the majority of Americans supported

it, up to 80% would chicken out if it came down to doing anything more than agreeing with the pollster, since it might "make things worse" in Congress or threaten the 2012 elections

[felix_numinous]

34. I think it is their Achille's heel

that is exactly what Republicans and their financiers are paying billions in public relations to cover up, their crimes.

[grahamhgreen]

24. When you fail to prosecute for a crime you become complicit.

[SammyWinstonJack]

28. +1

:thumbsup:

[trackfan]

25. Lock him up. n/t

[Nuclear Unicorn]

26. The article says, "The method...has since been banned by the DoJ"

Translation - it's not an outright illegality, i.e. congress passed prohibition merely a policy the executive branch has imposed on itself.

If memory serves congress passed a law--with ex-torturee McCain's help no less--that would allow it in extreme circumstances.

So I'm guessing there is enough legal wiggle room for an elephant (pun intended) in there.

The quote also says, "has since been banned" which means it was just fine back in the day.

Short answer: goin' nowhere.


And since policies such as indefinite detention, assassination, etc have not only been preserved but expanded I don't think the gander is in the mood to start saucing-up the goose.

Just add this to the list of disappointments we will take with us to our graves.

[Jakes Progress]

31. And why wouldn't he?

What the memoir left out is the line that follows. There is "I ordered waterboarding" followed by "And just what do you think you are gonna do about it." Probably followed by "Nyah Nyah"

He and dick will never be held accountable unless there is a heaven and hell.

[bigwillq]

32. K and R (nt)